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I don't hate Faith. Pointing out she is a troll, as you are, is not hateful. That you equate pointing out she is a troll, with her words is quite telling.

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This is very telling about today's Democrat party. Do you know what Lee's views were on slavery?

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He wasn’t exactly happy to see it ended.

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Lee held slavery to be an evil institution

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Lee in his well-known analysis of slavery from an 1856 letter called it a moral and political evil.

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Robert E. Lee - Wikipedia

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Those quotes are rather misleading. Here they are in context: And a quote from the letter to provide more context for the second quote:

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Let me guess, you don't care. All the civil war was, was a fight between those who loved slavery and those who disagreed with it, and that's the end of it as far as you're concerned, right?

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No, the American Civil War was primarily a fight between those wishing to preserve slavery versus those wishing to preserve the Union.And I note that you don’t seem interested in accurately presenting Lee’s views.

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If you don't care about any of this, if you just close your eyes and hold your ears and call him a racist, then what you're doing is calling pretty much half of the U.S. racist, as it was 155 / 160 years ago. Does that mean the ENTIRE U.S. was racist in 1820, or 1830? As Trump referred in the video Faith put up a few dozen messages back, does that mean George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were racists too, since they owned slaves?

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Who says that I called him racist for his position on slavery?This is the real reason: But I guess you don’t care about that,

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Trump and other Republicans often claim how much they love and respect their country. But when liberals claim they do as well, it just doesn't go along with the disrespect they show for it's history and it's prominent historical figures.

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Loving your country doesn’t mean loving every prominent person in its history.

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The point of all this? There really were "fine people" in Charlottesville defending the statue, and Trump really wasn't a racist by saying it.

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In other words you agree - you think that racists become “very fine people” if they stand up for the statue of a racist who fought for slavery.Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

Isn't it clear that when one hates an ideologue like a Leftist it's the ideology one is hating? As when Jesus said He hates the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. I hate Leftists with a passion but that means I hate what they think. I hate the whole gaggle of Leftists, not individuals in particular but the whole blighted thinking pattern that is Leftism.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes you do hate me.

Trump wasn't defending racists.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I should have been clear I'm hating LeftISM instead of LeftISTS, and it is hard to avoid personalizing it when so much hate is coming at me as you have been pointing out.

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Trump wasn't defending racists.

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I wasn’t talking about Trump - in that post.But the people attending the Unite the Right event were racists and if Trump wasn’t defending them, who was he defending ?Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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...it is hard to avoid personalizing it when so much hate is coming at me as you have been pointing out.

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See Message 1434 and your reply Message 1435And let us note that there is still no evidence of any substantial grouping of “non-White-Supremacists” at the Unite the Right rally, nor even a good reason why such people would want to attend a White Supremacist event.

I do not know you or care enough about you to hate you. I despise your ideas and trollish behavior. Do not so value yourself that I would deign to hate you. As soon as I close this page, I will forget you again.
Hate is not something I posses or understand. It seems to be a religious, particularly christian, virtue.

Make up your mind. "I hate leftists with a passion" means you hate leftists with a passion.

Why would you say that?
Although they do seem calm, they do not seem to all be respectful.I will now show you 4 calm, respectful responses to Faith.
And, just so I don't cherry-pick like you did, I'll grab the 4 responses closest to the post you just made (the one I'm replying to.)Your post: Message 1525Calm, respectful response to Faith #1: Message 1524
Calm, respectful response to Faith #2: Message 1523
Calm, respectful response to Faith #3: Message 1522
Calm, respectful response to Faith #4: Message 1521
That's how you look at something without bias. Don't worry though, everyone can see right through the tricks you've attempted. My picture is a description of the objective, factual evidence.
Yours is a description of cherry-picked whatever-you-could-find-to-support-your-imagined-notion.
Did you not notice who started the yelling and screaming and insults? It's hardly reasonable to expect no insults in return after such a display, don't you think?I leave it to the floor to decide which one is a more accurate picture painted of the reality that's occurred.

• When you have a good argument, use explication. When you don't have a good argument, use shouting and insults.
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• When explication of a good argument is ignored or responded to with shouting and insults, some resort to insults.
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• Trump can utter words to muddy any waters.
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• In many cases it is better to judge Trump by his actions, such as his recent proposal to make asylum requests even more difficult.
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• People who aren't racist treat people of other races, especially those less fortunate, with compassion and dignity.
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• Robert E. Lee's views on slavery are often characterized as complicated, but to my mind they were no more so than many other Southerners who justified slavery on made-up grounds they found palatable and pleasing while giving economic factors a minor role.

--Percy

Had to google this one. Explication--

Wonderful. Being angry at all the lies is proof that I'm wrong. Gosh, what a stellar bit of reasoning. Yes, it's similar to how anything Trump says gets twisted by the Anti-Right -- Oh and here's more wonderful cleverness: censor the word "L-eft" so I have to find alternatives. Isn't that rather babyish of you?I have no problem at all hearing that video and understanding that he said nothing to align himself with the racist crowd, nothing at all, but those of a Le-ft-ist bent can always make it appear so, mostly just by insisting on it, in lower case letters of course -- that's a main element of the "evidence" now. Trump has said not one racist thing in the whole time he's been President but the Le=ft says he has though the evidence is merely circumstantial events -- judging him by his "actions" which you think is more accurate but is really just imposing your own opinion on him -- circumstances and actions they insist on interpreting as racism and cramming into his mouth. All this is just the usual ha-t-e-ful (ha ha, gosh how truly l-e-ftist of you to censor that word too. Soon you'll just censor everything I say, right?) L=eftist spin. But I'm not allowed to say so, right? So we censor the necessary words for saying it. Isn't that, um, a violation of the right to free speech? Typical of the L-e-f-t these days: if you can't twist it, erase it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

And again let us note that your evidence is utterly irrelevant to the fact that Trump clearly identified people who are not white supremacists as "fine people" on the side of preserving historical monuments. That is absolutely clear from what he said, all of it. What exactly he was referring to is irrelevant, and so is your "evidence" since the point is WHAT HE WAS THINKING OF and clearly he did not have racists in mind. He very clearly made a distinction between the "bad people" on both sides, and those he did NOT identify with them, and SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED the neo-Nazis and white supremacists as the "bad people" who should be condemned, differentiating them from the people who he understood to be protesting on behalf of history. What HE UNDERSTOOD is the point, not some pedantic facts. All the racists you can hallucinate in the group you assume he was referring to has nothing to do with what HE HAD IN MIND. It takes some kind of devious mental twisting to impute your own opinion to someone else.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.