The people behind a great post...

The phenomenon might be due to intense dislike for the doctrines of Faith/Iano, etc., and so one is apt to like the posts of those who put them down. In other words, It's "subjective"--assuming that word has any meaning anymore.

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"The whole of life goes like this. We seek repose by battling against difficulties, and once they are overcome, repose becomes unbearable because of the boredom it engenders."--Pascal

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Evos, on the other hand, appear much more willing to recognize the technical merit of their opponents arguments even as they voice their disagreement with the meaning.

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My thoughts exactly.I hate to say it, but I also think that we are extra impressed by a creo who can actually follow and articulate a complex thought and can also manage to use big words correctly.We see it so rarely that when someone like that stumbles along, our collective heads tend to snap around, don't they?This message has been edited by schrafinator, 04-19-2006 02:36 PM

I know why he is doing it. What I don't know is how to educate the rhetorical religionists to understand what a rational arguement is. For him the emotional value of seeing some numerical advantage whether the numbers are bogus or not is the argument. If he feels better then the matter is proved, he's right.It's circular reasoning with a positive feedback. He's amping his religious emotion circuitry and it just feels better everytime he does it. It's an internet tent rival meeting. This emotion is also referred to by Iano as the "spirit".lfen

What's that got to do with this thread?

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"The whole of life goes like this. We seek repose by battling against difficulties, and once they are overcome, repose becomes unbearable because of the boredom it engenders."--Pascal

Do you mean there is such a thing as a human being making a rational argument? How can that be if we are but dreams in the mind of a God-thing?

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"The whole of life goes like this. We seek repose by battling against difficulties, and once they are overcome, repose becomes unbearable because of the boredom it engenders."--Pascal

All the complexities of human organisms are ongoing phenomenon including thinking, emoting, all the complex high level behaviours. The dream is that each of these complexes is a unique permanent being."God-thing" is your phrase. I've always sought to de construct the notion the God is any kind of thing at all. As a native speaker of English of course I use words like "human being". That is a perfectly useful gramatical reference. The problems occur when it's reifed and that gives rise to questions ala Wittgenstein's analysis that make no sense but only have an syntatical form similiar to meaningful questions. But I've got to rush to work now. If you want more I should have time this evening.lfen

Yeah, I agree. The standard of quality for a creationist to get a POTM is significantly lower than for evolutionists; not least of which because some of the creationists put an extra emphasis on nominating their peers so as to preserve parity of POTM noms with the evolutionists. Makes them seem equal, I guess.

you're really not making any sense. one. not all christians ascribe to faith alone.
two. not all people who ascribe to faith alone in god are christians.
three. somehow i'm not on your list although i ascribe to both.
four. people on your list don't allow other people to ascribe to faith alone since they require works. not necessarily. just because someone is so incredibly intellectually distant, does not mean that making an incredible post in their direction is a waste. remember. the conversation here is more for the benefit of lurkers than anyone else. we're all just puppets really.

Sorry, my math was a little fuzzy. I was undercounting the number of members that held that position.

There are a couple reasons why people like Faith and Randman draw so many POTM responses. One is that they post so much that naturally there will be more responses. But even in proportion to their posts they draw lots of responses, which brings me to the other reason.They draw lots of responses because they tend to pitch lots of home run balls that people just love to hit out of the park. In other words, their errors are so obvious that everyone wants to take a shot, and it's easy to wax eloquent and make clear, concise points when the technical material is basic.--Percy

how in the world do you get .2 nominations?

Leading by example is a tried and tested method. In attempting to do so it might help you edumicate this religionist were you to know that his engineering career follows the mechanical directon not the electronic one

I'm still trying to figure out what being able to use big words or whatever has to do with being a poster who EVOKES a potm. Is it that the other sort, who don't know the big words and so forth, are not worth responding to with excellence? But that doesn't explain the OP's point. What about all the evos who know the big words and who do not evoke potms?

Does that not kind of diminish the Potm-er though? Surely it is the level of the argument overcome which gives the Potm its worth. You really mean to tell me that you consider all those Potms (45% of them or thereabouts) to be the most stylish ways of taking candy from a kid?This message has been edited by iano, 19-Apr-2006 08:29 PM

You seem to have misread the data regarding this too Crash. Where are all these parity forming creo-on-creo nominations which currently only exists as a notion swirling around in your head