|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
Thread ▼ Details |
Member (Idle past 761 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: Interesting quiz | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Or maybe you just got angry that the notions of US history and the basis of our government are not based in Christianity like you thought they were. No where in any of my posts have I claimed that, but yet you keep thinking that I do. Stop it. We are a Christian nation, because we are made up of mostly Christians. Which by the way means nothing to me, because I do not even feel that most of these so called Chriatians actually behave like Christians, or really make an attempt to. But one thing is for sure, and that is that the nation was not formed on atheistic values. They believed in God, and wanted freedom of religion. They wanted government and religion to be separated so that religious leaders could not legally tell you what to do. The religious leaders of the day were IMO POS. Sound familiar?
You do know that those questions were all factual in basis, right? What does that have to do with the price of butter? Post modern rationalizing is a dying fad schraf, give it up.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
But one thing is for sure, and that is that the nation was not formed on atheistic values. They believed in God, and wanted freedom of religion. They wanted government and religion to be separated so that religious leaders could not legally tell you what to do. The religious leaders of the day were IMO POS. Sound familiar? Yeah. It's a philosophy known today as "secularism."
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: What in the world are "atheistic values"? "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: The United States Constitution and Bill of Rights are based upon the humanistic values of the Enlightenment. That is, it was based upon secular values. I am not sure what "atheistic values" consist of.
quote: Most of the Founding Fathers did not believe in the Christian concept of God. ...which means that most of them were not Christians.
quote: Correct.
quote: Close. They wanted separation of church and state so that; 1) there would be no requirement to be a member of the state religion in order to hold public office, 2) the government would not endorse any religion, as they came from a government in which this was the case and they saw the inappropriate and corrupting influence that church leaders had, and 3) they believed that which religion a person chose, if any, was personal and should be free from government interference.
You do know that those questions were all factual in basis, right? quote: You got angry and seemed threatened and upset when presented with the facts. That's why it is relevant.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Which stuff? Can you please point out the specific laws that you believe regulates what brenna described?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
You got angry and seemed threatened and upset when presented with the facts. I am not angry at the facts, but angry at a possible hidden agenda, which some have agreed that there might be one.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
In R and D, can you just do what ever you want?
Or are there ethical laws that determine just what you can get away with. FDA, etc.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The hidden agenda was not very well hidden. It was an attempt to point out that most folk don't have a clue of actual history.
Take some time, if possible, and go back through the test. Look at each question and then tell us what your objection is to the question and perhaps we can discuss its merit. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Only because of somethings I've learned here.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4926 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Not really sure what you are referring to. My point is that the idea of separation of Church and State is a decidedly anti-Catholic idea.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4926 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Holmes, we have 2 definitions of "secularists". I don't use the word as you suggest because I think most people understand it to mean something akin to the government being secular, which is wrong. The government is not suppossed to be "secular" or non-secular. If anything, it should to being pro-religion in general, but non-coercive and non-sectarian.
I think people use the claim of "secular" to propose secularism as the official religion/ideology, and so a secular hero, for example, can have a statue or something secular in a courthouse or public grounds, but anything connected to religion is suspect. Imo, that's wrong, and that's not what the Anabaptists, Baptists and others were talking about when they advocated separation of Church and State.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4926 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
By the way, churches do not need a 501C3 determination but are automatically exempt, period.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4926 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Brenna, can you show where the Puritans talked of freedom of religion as a principle?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
they came to america seeking freedom from persecution. but they did anything but allow the same to others.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
well, apparently it's a decidedly anti-christian idea.
you know. like forgiveness.
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024