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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Tal is pretty busy these days, jar, trying to track down a scientific evidence between pornography and serial killings. I, for one, am eagerly awaiting his return to that thread with his information.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Sure it does. No, no it doesn't. Unless you're trying to tell me there's actually more people in the first picture than in the second? No? I didn't think so. If you still believe that you've somehow refuted something I've said, then you need to go back to what Lizard was saying in the first place. Your post is irrelevant and responds to no point that I have made.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
No, no it doesn't. Unless you're trying to tell me there's actually more people in the first picture than in the second? No? I didn't think so. If you still believe that you've somehow refuted something I've said, then you need to go back to what Lizard was saying in the first place.
I refuted it quite clearly. "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
We are not going to see this thread degeneratee into "Yes I did","No you didn't"
Tal, your response was not clear to at least one other poster than Crash. So even if you believe you refuted his statement, you failed. It is up to you to try again and with more than a one liner or to simply fade away. New Members should start HERE to get an understanding of what makes great posts.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I refuted it quite clearly. Refuted what? Let's look at your post, point by point:
The first thing I would like to point out is that Iraqis are using thier FREEDOM to protest against whatever they see fit. I made no claim that the Iraqis were not using their freedom to protest. In fact it's obvious from the pictures that they are doing so, and it would be stupid indeed to claim the opposite. So, this point refutes nothing.
The second thing is that Muqtada is a thug, but he is also a politician. A reference to Muqtada al-Sadr did not appear in my post, and I would certainly describe him as both thug and politician, thus this point refutes nothing.
Third, you'll notice it was not just an "anti-american" rally. A claim that the second rally was motivated purely by anti-american sentiment does not appear in my post. This point refutes nothing.
Oh, and they want Saddam's trial to move a little faster. No reference to Saddam's trial, or to a desire among the populace for his trial to move slower, appears in my post. This point refutes nothing.
This is just to emphasize that Al-Sadr is simply playing politics. The fact that he can organize such a demonstration is a testament to Iraq's liberation. A claim that Iraq his no longer subject to the oppresive regime of Saddam Hussein does not appear in my post. This point refutes nothing. So, now, what exactly did you refute? I'll require that you post the actual statement or statements from my post that you were responding to, please.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Bad statistics...on both sides because the two groups are not the same. quite. we're comparing apples and oranges here. and our descriptions aren't even accurate to start with.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
So you had no point?
I helped scare an old person-I stopped someone from keeping more of their money-So what if people want to have say in the places they live and the cars that they drive-I gave money to an environmental group that helped keep us dependant on foreign oil-I help the enemies of democracy get stronger by telling them laws don’t matter-What if one day I need an abortion-Sex with an intern, everybody does it-I help teach kids around America that America is always wrong Do you know what your DNC stands for?
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Your signature is pretty incoherent what is it meant to say?
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LinearAq Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 598 From: Pocomoke City, MD Joined: |
Sorry I am so slow to reply.
robinrohan writes:
Yes the administration did emphasize the WMD issue. They were mistaken. Iraq had those weapons, so they were either destroyed, used or sold. They couldn't come up with the paperwork to show what happened to them so the US government assumed the worst....they were hidden. I guess Iraq should have been more meticulous with their records. Our government being mistaken does not make them dishonest. The whole world knows that we made a big deal about how dangerous Saddam was with his WMD's. Then when we didn't find any we had to play up our concern for the Iraqi people. Did the administration care about the people of Iraq? I'm sure they did to an extent. Would Congress have supported an invasion if it was to help the Iraqi people only? I think not. I am reasonably sure it would not have gained popular support. You don't see people clamoring to invade the Sudan to "save the people". There was no real support to help in Bosnia, either.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Yes the administration did emphasize the WMD issue. They were mistaken Yes, Bush should have given or should give a speech in which he admits they were wrong, and that the reason given for invading Iraq originally was a mistake. Iraq was no threat to us. But of course they will not do that. They are making out like the whole reason for invading Iraq in the first place was to save the Iraqi people from tyranny, establish a democracy in Iraq, which will help the Mideast generally. Nowadays they are mute on the question of the WMD's.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Yes, and Natalie Holloway was never on Aruba.
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Monk Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 782 From: Kansas, USA Joined: |
Iraq was no threat to us. And if we had not invaded? Do you believe that Saddam would have been content with the status quo, sitting in his little box, as former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright liked to put it? How long would he have remained the "quiet dictator", content with the situation? The answer is not very long at all. He would have patiently waited for appeasment to kick in and sanctions to be removed. Then he would have had free reign to pursue WMD's while privately laughing at the stupidity of the West.
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
ah ...the "escape to the future" - well back my old friend!
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Tal Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Natalie Holloway was on Aruba.
WMD were in Iraq. People saw Natalie on Aruba. Saddam used his WMD on people in Iraq. We can't find Natalie Holloway in 193 square miles. We can't find WMD in Iraq in 169,235 square miles (not to mention we can't just walk into Syria and Iran and turn rocks over). I helped scare an old person-I stopped someone from keeping more of their money-So what if people want to have say in the places they live and the cars that they drive-I gave money to an environmental group that helped keep us dependant on foreign oil-I help the enemies of democracy get stronger by telling them laws don’t matter-What if one day I need an abortion-Sex with an intern, everybody does it-I help teach kids around America that America is always wrong Do you know what your DNC stands for?
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Monk Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 782 From: Kansas, USA Joined: |
ah ...the "escape to the future" - well back my old friend! That's right. It's called pre-emption. It happened in previous adminstrations, it happened in this one, and it will happen in future adminstrations.
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