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Author Topic:   The boasts of atheists (Atheist self-deception)
jar
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Message 226 of 304 (330887)
07-11-2006 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by robinrohan
07-11-2006 4:25 PM


So sad, you miss so many wondrous opportunities .
A few weeks ago I went with my wife to the VA hospital locally (she was signing up for benefits). While she was filling out paperwork, I wandered around. I happened to go out this door into a sort of patio, and there I saw a lot of old men. Many of them were missing limbs. They didn't look like they had much money either. Shabbily dressed. Veterans of some war or other.
It was terrible. My heart went out to them.
What an unbelievable opportunity you missed. I pity you.
Not too long ago I went to visit my great aunt, who was well over 100 years old, and living in a nursing home. When I got there she had fallen asleep and I turned to leave.
On the way down the hall I passed several folk in wheelchairs and as is my custom said, "Hi" to them. Nothing more, just look them in the eye and a smile. One old gentleman looked up at me and said, "You know, I was there."
Needless to say, that stopped me in my tracks.
"No," I replied, "I didn't. What was it like?"
I spent over an hour talking to him about life on the border around the turn of the century. It was awsome and wondrous.
Edited by jar, : fix subtitle

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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mikehager
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Message 227 of 304 (330889)
07-11-2006 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by jar
07-11-2006 4:46 PM


Re: Boasting
What an unbelievable opportunity you missed. I pity you.
Damn straight. To look at the old, those who have gone on before us, and to judge them so superficially, by such shallow standards...
The problem is not with those old, expierenced and probably quite ill gentlemen. It is with you, RR.
Edited by mikehager, : replied to Jar, should have replied to RR
Edited by mikehager, : spelling...

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Message 228 of 304 (330891)
07-11-2006 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by robinrohan
07-11-2006 4:25 PM


Re: Boasting
A few weeks ago I went with my wife to the VA hospital locally (she was signing up for benefits). While she was filling out paperwork, I wandered around. I happened to go out this door into a sort of patio, and there I saw a lot of old men. Many of them were missing limbs. They didn't look like they had much money either. Shabbily dressed. Veterans of some war or other.
It was terrible. My heart went out to them.
Life.
How at all was this terrible? Why do you pity the ones who have lived long and full lives, and are still living to experience their lives?

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robinrohan
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Message 229 of 304 (330892)
07-11-2006 4:56 PM
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07-11-2006 4:54 PM


Re: Boasting
How at all was this terrible?
The suffering.

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Message 230 of 304 (330893)
07-11-2006 4:59 PM
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07-11-2006 4:56 PM


Re: Boasting
I would ask you to clarify what you mean by suffering.

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purpledawn
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Message 231 of 304 (330894)
07-11-2006 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by robinrohan
07-11-2006 4:18 PM


Re: Loyalty
quote:
This is the part that really got to me. Such boasting.
That's nothing more than respect. Don't get hungup on the fancy wording.
Are you loyal to everyone you meet or only those you respect and consider close friends?
It would be difficult for me to be close friends with someone I don't respect.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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docpotato
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Message 232 of 304 (330895)
07-11-2006 4:59 PM
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07-11-2006 4:56 PM


Re: Boasting
No no. It's, "The horror. The horror."

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robinrohan
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Message 233 of 304 (330896)
07-11-2006 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by Discreet Label
07-11-2006 4:59 PM


Re: Boasting
I would ask you to clarify what you mean by suffering.
The missing limbs. The neglect. Also I felt guilty.

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Message 234 of 304 (330898)
07-11-2006 5:02 PM
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07-11-2006 5:00 PM


Re: Boasting
guilty for what if i may ask?
As well as what neglect?
And why do you pity their lost limbs? Does losing a limb make them any less of a person of experience?
Edited by Discreet Label, : spelling

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Message 235 of 304 (330900)
07-11-2006 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by iano
07-11-2006 5:37 AM


Re: Exemplary
Perhaps, are you then implying that my students (i'm not a teacher but a tutor instead), are then lying if they state they find me as an excellent tutor?
Also your questions and concerns are valid, but by the same token when they say that you are good are you to take it at face value as being an honest answer, or must you then think they are and thus are dishonest and selfserving by only saying these things to flatter? Because they find it easy to flatter and potenially recieve an 'easier' exam?

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Message 236 of 304 (330902)
07-11-2006 5:18 PM
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07-11-2006 5:45 AM


Re: Exemplary
Why are you boasting about your lack of morals and ethics, and general bad behavior?
Is not claiming your are an incredible murderer just as bad as saying as you are an extrememly loyal and devoted person? In fact one may consider it to be worse because you then take pride in negative social values.

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Michael
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Message 237 of 304 (330907)
07-11-2006 5:31 PM


wondering ...
Is there a place to make nominations for the most inane topic of the month?

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robinrohan
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Message 238 of 304 (330909)
07-11-2006 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by Discreet Label
07-11-2006 5:02 PM


Re: Boasting
guilty for what if i may ask?
The usual thing. Why not me? Why them? Some of them were about my age. I got off lucky. I looked younger because I had not suffered.
As well as what neglect?
They were poor because they got their legs blown off in some horrible battle, and when they got back they couldn't find a decent job.
And why do you pity their lost limbs?
What a question.
Does losing a limb make them any less of a person of experience?
No, but they SUFFER.
I looked at their faces, and what I saw was a stony, stoic suffering.
One of them bummed a cigarette off me. That's all I had to give him.
Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

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robinrohan
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Message 239 of 304 (330910)
07-11-2006 5:43 PM
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07-11-2006 5:31 PM


Re: wondering ...
Is there a place to make nominations for the most inane topic of the month?
Why inane?

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jar
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Message 240 of 304 (330911)
07-11-2006 5:45 PM
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07-11-2006 5:31 PM


Re: wondering ...
Is there a place to make nominations for the most inane topic of the month?
Would elevating the value of this thread to inane be considered boasting?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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