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Topic: Sarah Palin & Intelligent Design + Creationism
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johnfolton 
Suspended Member (Idle past 5610 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: 12-04-2005
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Darwin was not an atheist. Nor was Mendel. I think your right he recanted on his death bed that God did it. right? I don't remember him completing his theology degree? for that matter don't remember him getting any degree in the sciences. hmmm....I hope for his sake he recanted on his death bed, we all know the evolutionists (athesistic religion)took his book an ran with it from someone that never completed a degree. He was a real amateur though I suppose. Mendel now he was a saint, a catholic I hear, even these days hear good things from Catholics,etc....But he certainly did not believe the origin of the species had not a creator. He was a saint was he not?
How about, for a change, you actually provide evidence? Heres a present time catholic benedictine monk and what the catholic church thru this Monk has to say about evolution, here the catholic church says that evolution is a pagan religion. I personally considered atheism a religion but after listening suspect this Catholic is right on this one point that they are violating the separation of church and state. Enjoy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kmuCiEdgqQ As far as evolution is not a religion listen to benedictine Monk Michael Dimond as he tells the laity that evolution is a dangerous heresy that its a pagan religion. Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given. Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given. Edited by AdminNosy, : Off topic post hidden.
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4134 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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You need billions of transisitional fossils if the earth is but a young earth. How pray tell did the butterfly morph into a bird just how did the wing evolute the fossil record is quite clear all the fossil record from the cambrian explosion came fully formed. Why pray tell is that unless they were all created as the fossil record attests fully formed. How is the fossil record lying, etc...
I noticed you are now changing your beliefs. You stated there weren't any. Now you are stating there aren't enough. Which is it? If you want for evidence, there are numerous threads showing how the fossil record supports evolution. I won't play your PRATT game. Dude. Did you even read the links? here's another. Geoscience Research Institute | I think we need more research on that... Edited by AdminNosy, : off topic post hidden
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obvious Child
Member (Idle past 4134 days) Posts: 661 Joined: 08-17-2006
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Off topic post hidden. Do you ever stop with the lies? CG001: Darwin recanted You claimed that evolution was based on atheists and their ideas. Mendel provided much of the early knowledge of genetic inheritance. He was not an atheist. Your dishonesty is massive. Monk Michael Dimond does not speak for the Catholic Church. Furthermore, John Paul II accepted virtually all of evolution with the caveat of Man's special creation. I'd frankly trust the POPE over a monk. And once again, a creationist fails with flying colors to provide any evidence of anything he's ever said. Edited by AdminNosy, : hide off topic post
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Adminnemooseus
Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: 09-26-2002
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Message 19 of 51 (481469)
09-11-2008 4:37 AM
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I'm calling this topic "a pile of crap"
Closing down. Adminnemooseus
Admin writes: It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon. There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot. Please make it easy to tell you apart from the idiots. Source
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AdminNosy
Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: 11-11-2003
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JohnFoulton Not Welcome Here
Sorry Moose but I disagree with closing the whole thing. To John: Do not post in this thread again or you will loose coffee house privileges completely for days and days. Start paying attention to the topic more carefully or loose more privileges.
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AdminNosy
Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: 11-11-2003
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Warning to John
You may take each of these separate topics to an appropriate thread. You may not drag this thread waaaay off topic. I suggest (strongly) that you do NOT post on this particular thread again since you are unlikely to have anything appropriate to say.
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2125 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Re: Creation "science" again
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You know primordial polonium halos pretty much trumps the old earth stuff perhaps you could start rewriting paleontology 101. It was primordial polonium halo's think it Gentry work that proves its a young earth. Polonium halos have been refuted as evidence for a young earth. Here are a couple of links:
Your fossil is good example to explain to the students why the evolutionists date sediments is to give whatever age to the fossil they need without actually directly dating the fossil. That the age is assumed by indicator fossils, sediment layers, and other bogus reasonings when these same fossils are dated by C14 to be only thousands of years old. A creationist lie followed by a creationist misrepresentation. And your point on C14 dating is based on total ignorance of the subject. Creation "science" as usual.
That baumgardener and all of the RATE Boys talks of directly dating with carbon 14 that there is still enough of a ratio left in those young bones to date these kind of fossils directly and they are all dating young. Imagine that the paleontologists were off by near a 1.75 million years. Then explain in spite of new technology the paleontologists refuse to believe any ratio is left when clearly all fossils of this type are all dating thousands of years old. If they were 1.75 millions of years old they simply would not have any ratio left. That this is another prime example of the young earth phenomenom thats being excluded from the textbooks because its scientific evidence of an young earth! Yes Creation science again and again, etc... The examples you give of residual amounts of C14 in fossils (and you missed the common creationist example of residual C14 in diamonds) are bogus. Have you ever investigated these claims, or do you just trust them because you agree with them? (Creation "science" at work again.) If I were you, I wouldn't bet the rent money on anything you find in a creationist website. Edited by AdminNosy, : off topic material hidden
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Modulous
Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: 05-01-2005
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Message 23 of 51 (481506)
09-11-2008 11:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Rahvin
09-10-2008 10:50 PM
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Re: Is Sarah serious...
Even if she did, the VP/President have no say in the matter. Educational curriculum is decided on the state and local level, not the federal, and by school boards, not the heads of teh Executive branch.
Not to mention any attempt to do so would be swiftly struck down by the courts, just as happened in Dover.
This sounds reassuring but, unless I'm mistaken, VPs and Presidents do get involved in Supreme Court judges, and the current Supreme Court setup is apaprently precarious. If it swings the bad way enough, the Disco Institute will try their luck there, no doubt.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 631 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 24 of 51 (481509)
09-11-2008 11:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 23 by Modulous
09-11-2008 11:13 AM
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Re: Is Sarah serious...
I also think that having a VP or P that is that IGNORANT is not very good at all. We had that the last 8 years, and I don't want to see that another even 4 years.
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4208 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Is it possible to be a democrat and a christian? It says all things are possible with God? Of course it is possible for a person to be a Christian & a democrat but it is unlikely that a fundie Christian would be.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Dawn Bertot
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 3571 Joined: 11-23-2007
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OC writes to Johnfolton: As for the alleged lack of transitional fossils, you are either lying or are ignorant. Under the category of 'Human ancestry', do you have a valid reason why none of these alleged Hominids (transitional fellas) did not survive to this day. In other words, we have living examples of several types of Monkeys, Apes, Gorrillas, Chimpanzees, Orangutan, etc, etc, etc and numerous types of Humans, but not one exapmple of one of these so-called intermediate species, unless we include the elusive Bigfoot, ha ha. It seems very unlikely that every example or "type" of them would have been eradicated or have gone extinct. Just curious, D Bertot Edited by Bertot, : No reason given.
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 6.9
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do you have a valid reason why none of these alleged Hominids (transitional fellas) did not survive to this day
They were out competed by other species.
numerous types of Humans
There is only one type of human currently living on Earth, Homo sapiens.
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod MinistryLive every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Adminnemooseus
Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: 09-26-2002
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Message 28 of 51 (481649)
09-12-2008 12:46 AM
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Topic abandonment alert
I'm pretty confident that both messages 26 and 27 are substantioally off-topic. All messages should directly connect to Sarah Palin AND creationism and/or ID. Adminnemooseus
Admin writes: It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon. There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot. Please make it easy to tell you apart from the idiots. Source
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Dawn Bertot
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 3571 Joined: 11-23-2007
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Message 29 of 51 (481650)
09-12-2008 1:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 27 by DrJones*
09-12-2008 12:07 AM
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Dr Jones writes: They were out competed by other species.There is only one type of human currently living on Earth, Homo sapiens. The Doctor is in the Houuuse!!! So then you are saying that the tpyes of Primates that did survive all avoided ours and others competition by hiding out in the Jungles, Forests and other secluded areas? So why could not atleast some of these Harry goomers (as granny Clampet would call them)not have accomplished the same thing? Yet, every living example has mysteriously disappeared? Secondly, if your theory is true should'nt there be far more examples of these types of creatures, mass graves in instances and Numerous whole body examples and distant types of Homo Sapien drawings on cave walls etc, etc. Sorry I should have said, numerous georaphical examples of Human beings D Bertot {Off-topic content hidden. Instead of apologizing for the off-topic message (per following message), it would have been best that you had just deleted the original content and replaced said with a note along the lines of "Off-topic - Content deleted". Admins do not delete content other than spam, thus the "hide" rather than the "delete" on my part.- Adminnemooseus} {Added by second edit: I probably better should have "hidden" messages 26 and 27 with an added "off-topic" message, but I was in a hurry and not thinking well at the time. I perhaps was also waffling a bit on if they actually were off topic. AdminNosy did hide those messages and other messages. - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic content hidden and admin note posted. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.
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Dawn Bertot
Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 3571 Joined: 11-23-2007
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Re: Topic abandonment alert
I'm pretty confident that both messages 26 and 27 are substantioally off-topic.
All messages should directly connect to Sarah Palin AND creationism and/or ID. Adminnemooseus Sorry I didnt see your message before I posted my last one. Understood. D Bertot
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