Illiteracy

Not all people who aren't Creationists are atheists. There are plenty of people who are Christians, but don't believe in the Genesis version of Creation.This mistake comes up time and time again. You can be of the opinion that we're all here because of evolution, but still be an active Christian. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.

Even people of other faiths are treated badly in the United States.
Christians rule the country.I never said all evolutionist are Atheist...

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Sorry - I thought you were referring to all people who didn't believe in Creation. I've seen it so often that I decided the next time I saw it I was going to reply. Trust meto jump on the wrong one

Yes. Dyslexics have great difficulty following lines on paper. It's one of the most consistent identifying features of dyslexia.This message has been edited by Mr Jack, 05-24-2004 04:52 AM

Have you ever come across this? I saw a programme on TV which demonstrated that when a sheet of clear, coloured plastic was placed over a written page so that the writing wasn't black on white, but black on red or black on blue, dyslexics were able to read the text. It was years ago I saw this. I don't have any references or any other info, but I wondered if you'd heard of it.

Yes, the colour varies according to the dylexic and IIRC the colour has to be very specific for the best results, and it doesn't work for all of us. As far as I know, no-one has any idea why it works.

I have read (in something of Oliver Sacks I think) about those with mixed up senses. (can not remember the term).Smell with sound etc.One type is that people see different letters or number in a different color. The color is always associated with the symbol and the very idea of say, a number.Ok, but this is the kicker.There is a test with a whole lot of numbers in black on a white background. Most of them are 5's I think it is. a very few of hundred's are 3's. You and I would have a devil of a time picking the 3's.Someone with this mixing of the senses can just point them out immediately because they are a different color!so very cool

Sensasemia.It runs in my family, although I don't have it (or have it to a very minor degree) - my mum, my brother and my sister do.

How is it manifest?

I'm confused, you've just described the conditions of the syndrome, but don't know how it manifests? What do you mean?

There are a number of different forms with different senses mixed in different ways. I don't remember all the details but the example I gave is just one form.And it's called "synaesthesia".see here for some discussion
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A recent report in Nature by Prof Mike Dixon and colleagues from the University of Waterloo, Ontario, described a woman who believes that five plus two equals yellow.

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When the subject, only known as 'C', views numbers, each figure elicits a "photism", so that viewing the number seven generates the colour yellow, 999 is seen as three orange nines and 1000 as a grey one and three white zeroes.

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What is striking is that, for the woman, just as seven is yellow, so too is "five plus two". In other words, she sees yellow whenever she accesses the meaning of the number seven, said Prof Dixon. This suggests that her condition is driven by activating the mental concepts of digits rather than seeing the figure itself.

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Where are the admins? I am taking this so far off topic!This message has been edited by NosyNed, 05-26-2004 11:29 AM

Yes, your right about the name - damn my fallible memory.My mum sees colours for numbers, words and letters as well as well as smells for colours. But she gets visual wierdness when she gets Migraines as well. She says thinking in colours for numbers makes doing arithmetic much harder.I occasionally get smells for colours, but normally only when looking through a coloured filter.

I find this fascinating. As a migraine sufferer, I have often experienced color, taste and smell changes, sensations, something, preceeding the onset of the migraine. Clothing evokes taste differnces. Sheets tastes sweet but a blanket, particularly a wool blanket is really bitter. Lavender incense feels cool particularly across my forehead and strangely, my ears get cold.This also happens sometimes, though not always, preceeding a major asthma attack. I simple attributed these to the aura that the doctors have asked me about without actually thinking much beyond that. But it is an amazing experience. The closest comparision I can make would be to several alleged though unconfirmed experiences during the mid-sixties. In another thread I asked if we might be able to recognize some evolutionary change while it was happening. This is the type of change I had in mind when I suggested the thread. A change in the way that we collect and process information, something that provided a way to increase the volume of data could well be an evolutionary change.Something like this, if it provided a way to quickly discriminate data, for example, pulling out the green 3s from far greater mass of yellow 8s, could offer a significant advantage.

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Don't let the Admins stop this fascinating thread! I don't physically see numbers and letters as colours, but if I think of a number or letter it definitely has a colour all of it's own. Words have colours too. For example "lemon" isn't lemon, the "l" is pale yellow, the "e" is beige, the "m" is navy blue, the "o" is a sort of browny-blue and the "n" is pale grey. When I think of the word "lemon" I don't see a lemon in my mind's eye, I see the word written out and all the colours of the individual letters are there.On another vein, I'm epileptic (temporal lobe) and I've been known to get an aura which can involve hallucination of any of the senses. Now, I don't remember many of the details cos my last seizure was in 1980, but smells figured in it, and also suddenly feeling the emotion I felt on another occasion and that feeling reminding me of the occasion, rather than the other way around.One of the weirdest things is the feeling of deja vu, you know what's going to happen next, it happens and it's familiar and it can last for up to five minutes. I remember one occasion when I wanted to stop it, so I turned away from the "familiar" scene I was watching, only to realise that turning away was familiar too!! This is all apparently linked to the aura preceeding a seizure, but it's weird!

Oh, I can confirm those, but more like the late 1960's. Arkansas was kind of slow in getting that technology.This really is fascinating stuff! The only real glimpses I've had of such were with mescaline or LSD back then - "seeing" the muscles inside my thigh slide over each other while I swang on a porch swing, for instance. It would likely scare the pee out of me to have such an experience in my present old-man, no-longer-a-hippy state. Sehr interrasant!