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jar
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Message 16 of 22 (450499)
01-22-2008 10:15 AM
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01-22-2008 9:10 AM


Re: Exactly 22 Kinds, here they are listed:
But texts after Genesis list additional kinds. In fact there are a half dozen or so bird Kind.
But to return to the OP, are there any other kinds. So far everything you mentioned would fit in one of the three mentioned.

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Equinox
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Message 17 of 22 (450550)
01-22-2008 2:35 PM
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01-22-2008 10:15 AM


Re: Exactly 22 Kinds, here they are listed:
Sorry, I guess I just don't understand what the point of this is. I mean, the Bible and related texts describe many kinds (oh and what are the verse numbers to give those 6 bird kinds?), so I don't see how your three are relevant to anything.
But since you wanted others, how about fire, plasma, muon, quark, light (from gamma to radio), antimatter, white dwarf, bacteria, fungi, extremophile, black hole, dark matter, superstring, and dark energy, for fun?
Have a good day-
-Equinox
Edited by Equinox, : added mushrooms

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jar
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Message 18 of 22 (450557)
01-22-2008 2:47 PM
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01-22-2008 2:35 PM


Re: Exactly 22 Kinds, here they are listed:
Sorry, I guess I just don't understand what the point of this is. I mean, the Bible and related texts describe many kinds (oh and what are the verse numbers to give those 6 bird kinds?), so I don't see how your three are relevant to anything.
They all through Leviticus, some in Deuteronomy.
But since you wanted others, how about fire, plasma, muon, quark, light (from gamma to radio), antimatter, white dwarf, bacteria, fungi, extremophile, black hole, dark matter, superstring, and dark energy, for fun?
Wouldn't all those fit in one of the three kinds?

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Equinox
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Message 19 of 22 (450666)
01-23-2008 6:07 AM
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01-22-2008 2:47 PM


Re: Exactly 22 Kinds, here they are listed:
For the verses - you made the claim, could you please tell me which verses? Dt and Lv are big books.
Relevance - I still don't see the relevance of your categories. That could be done for any dichotomy. For instance, the three kinds could be:
1. Things that are blue
2. things that are partially blue or of unknown blueness
3. Things that are not blue.
Even if a categorical system works, that doesn't mean that's the one genesis uses, or that it matters, even to any discussion.
about if they fit - Yes, I agree the ones I gave can still fit in there. I misremembered your categories as being animal, vegetable and mineral, not live or dead.
have a fun day-
Equinox

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jar
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Message 20 of 22 (450703)
01-23-2008 10:04 AM
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01-23-2008 6:07 AM


Re: Exactly 22 Kinds, here they are listed:
Screw Genesis.
And no, I won't supply all the passages but a search on Kinds should help. I'll try to find a few for you and append them in.
Leviticus 11 writes:
22Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
Leviticus 11 writes:
14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
Leviticus 11 writes:
19And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
Deuteronomy 14 writes:
16And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
Leviticus 11 writes:
These also shall be unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind,
There are a few but I think you can get the idea.
Edited by jar, : No reason given.
Edited by jar, : add a few more examples

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Tusko
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Message 21 of 22 (450736)
01-23-2008 12:36 PM
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01-22-2008 9:10 AM


the Celestial Emporium of Benevolent Knowledge
Borges said he found this nugget in an ancient Chinese encyclopedia. Apologies if I have reproduced it before, and also because its slightly off topic. But it's as great a list of kinds of animal as you could ever hope to come across. There are actually 14 kinds of animal.
1.those that belong to the Emperor,
2.embalmed ones,
3.those that are trained,
4.suckling pigs,
5.mermaids,
6.fabulous ones,
7.stray dogs,
8.those included in the present classification,
9.those that tremble as if they were mad,
10.innumerable ones,
11.those drawn with a very fine camelhair brush,
12.others,
13.those that have just broken a flower vase,
14.those that from a long way off look like flies.

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Equinox
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Message 22 of 22 (452456)
01-30-2008 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by jar
01-23-2008 10:04 AM


Re: Exactly 22 Kinds, here they are listed:
Jar - thanks for the examples. The standard apologetic answer is that those are just referring to the larger kind they come from. While that may not be what the text says, for the reasons mentioned earlier, it seems like an irrelevant point to me.
Have a good day-
Equinox

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