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Author Topic:   morality, charity according to evolution
MarkAustin
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Message 114 of 243 (312075)
05-15-2006 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Hyroglyphx
05-14-2006 8:19 PM


Re: The altruism conundrum
nemesis_juggernaut:
The only thing certain is, based off of everyone's answers in here, homosexuality fits nowhere in the evolutionary paradigm and neither does altruism.
Okay, here's an evolutionary explanation of same-sex relations.
It occurs (rarely) in other animals, so exists as a mutation or genetic possibility.
It's a form of kin-selection. Once humanity started living in groups, having around some people who did not raise children meant they could but added effort into aiding group survival: thus allowing their siblings (and other close relatives) genes to be passed on. An ESS would emerge: too many and the group has too few children, too few and there's no aidi effect.

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MarkAustin
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From: London., UK
Joined: 05-23-2003


Message 169 of 243 (313443)
05-19-2006 6:12 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Hyroglyphx
05-18-2006 12:54 PM


Re: Glossing over the obvious
History begins in Mesopotamia and that fact is more than undeniable. So what are the chances that the Sumerians were so vastly advanced over those stupid Africans, that while the Africans were grunting, the Sumerians were advancing in a very complex language system and code of sociological laws? In other words, the Sumerians and Akkadians seemed to spring out of the ground already remarkably advanced. So, what are the odds that this level of intelligence didn't evovle slowly from one society to the next?
Read Jared Diamond's Guns Germs and Steel. I can only very lightly summarise his argument, but, basically, virtually all the domesticated animals and plants originate there. This gave them, and latterly Europe an immense advantage over the rest of the world. Africa, for instance, has no native domesticatable animals. There is absolutely no evidence of any significant difference in mental abilities across the world and Africa, for instance, had some quite sophisticated cultures, within their environmental limits. See Great Zimbabwe

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