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Author Topic:   morality, charity according to evolution
Belfry
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Message 210 of 243 (315072)
05-25-2006 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by Hyroglyphx
05-25-2006 12:55 AM


Re: Woo Hoo! Quotemines. My Favorite
nemesis writes:
Secondly, the date he wrote is of no consequence. He wrote it in 1929... Uh-huh. And Darwin wrote his book in the 1858, which means that he compiled his data years prior. So, because he wrote it in the 1800's means we have to reject it? This hypocritical bit speaks volumes to me.
It's important when the quote indicates a lack of "logically coherent evidence." We have gained gobs of logically coherent evidence since 1929 that has supported and formed evolutionary theory. We don't rely on Darwin's data to support evolution.
Quotes taken out-of-context so that they seem to say something they weren't intended to say are indeed deceptive. Your argument that they "say what they say" is specious.
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Belfry
Member (Idle past 5197 days)
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From: Ocala, FL
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Message 230 of 243 (315604)
05-27-2006 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by kuresu
05-27-2006 10:39 AM


Re: Pulling an "Adam Smith"
kuresu writes:
but why would the duck share it's resources, if it were being selfish?
the only answer I can think of is that it's being altruistic, because it is decreasing the total resources that he has, since others are now eating his food
That assumes that resources are limiting for that individual. What about when there are excess resources? There comes a point where an increase in a particular resource (be it light, O2 or CO2, water, food, space, etc.) does not increase the ability of an individual to survive and reproduce. A single duck can not make full use of the resources in a large pond. In such cases, the benefits of social cooperation (such as alerting each other to predators) could far outweigh the negative effects of competition.

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Belfry
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Message 232 of 243 (315642)
05-27-2006 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by kuresu
05-27-2006 3:16 PM


Re: Pulling an "Adam Smith"
Didn't mean to imply that you were arguing otherwise, kuresu - apologies if it seemed that way.

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