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Message 210 of 309 (434137)
11-14-2007 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by Elmer
11-14-2007 3:55 PM


Re: bump
Hi Elmer,
You've posted like this before:
Elmer writes:
There is, of course, no requirement that anybody respond to my points, but I personally require that any responses that are directed at me be civil, courteous, and informative [i.e., more than vacuous gainsaying or falsified opinion repeated as if repetition would make it fact], else I'll simply ignore them.
As I already informed you at least a couple times previously, ignoring posts causes problems of its own. If you believe some who respond to you are violating the Forum Guidelines then you should raise these issues in the General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 13.0 thread and allow the moderators to do their job.
Since you continue to issue these preemptive "If I don't like your tone I'll ignore you" warnings while ignoring my requests that you not do so, I'm suspending you for 24 hours.

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Message 231 of 309 (463191)
04-12-2008 10:06 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by MartinV
04-12-2008 9:53 PM


Hi Martin,
Your participation here has come to an end.

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Message 259 of 309 (463706)
04-19-2008 7:51 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by randman
04-18-2008 11:13 PM


Re: Back to basics
randman writes:
Not grabbing at anything. You know full well what the study is so don't make false accusations.....the simple truth is this site is censored according to the perception of the owner.
The place for these kinds of complaints, as I've told you many, many times, is Windsor castle. I had decided to ignore your statement that molbiogirl picked up on, and now you leave me no choice. Four days this time.
AbE:
So cut the crap. If you have some integrity...
Also, you must stop making the debate personal. Evidence, argument, rebuttal, evidence, argument, rebuttal, over and over and over again, that's all that is wanted here.
Please, no replies.
Edited by Admin, : Add another Forum Guidelines violation item.
Edited by Admin, : Add "no replies" comment.

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Message 260 of 309 (463707)
04-19-2008 8:03 AM
Reply to: Message 254 by randman
04-18-2008 11:16 PM


Re: Back to basics
randman writes:
The data is there and you can find it quite easily.....you can even find where I've discussed it here at EvC or just do some googling.
I know I'm just wasting my breath, but at EvC Forum members are encouraged to make their arguments in their own words and support them with evidence. Telling people to go find the evidence to support your arguments by Googling is not permitted.
I'm going to begin operating on the assumption that, even though you keep returning after each suspension, that your goal is less constructive discussion and more getting a few rule-breaking shots in before being suspended again, so I'm going be more strict with you from now on. Anything in messages from you that doesn't directly and obviously address the topic will result in an immediate suspension, five days next time.
Please, no replies.

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Message 262 of 309 (463711)
04-19-2008 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by randman
04-19-2008 1:11 AM


Re: Randman's reluctance to supply a link
randman writes:
I thought you participated in the "discussion" of this link but maybe it was just percy and someone else. Here is the link per your request (though not in email form).
Percy's comments in admin mode suggest to me that linking this paper would not be acceptable to him.
Randman is referring to his Acropora millepora and it's human genes thread proposal. Everyone is welcome to read that thread to see that Randman is incorrect to claim that my "comments in admin mode suggest...that linking this paper would not be acceptable..." I never made any such suggestion.
No link has ever been ruled off limits at EvC Forum.
No suggestion has ever been made that the link would not be permitted in this thread.
Randman is also clearly in violation of the Forum Guidelines to complain here about a thread proposal. As was clearly suggested at the end of that proposal, he should post to Topic Proposal Issues if he would like to reopen it.
And responding specifically to this:
randman writes:
To be honest, it's not clear to me why the findings of this paper were deemed off-limits for it's own thread.
The paper was not deemed off-limits. It was pointed out to Randman by both myself and AdminNosy that the paper did not support his argument, and that he was making an incorrect interpretation. I informed Randman that the thread would not be promoted as long as it contained references incongruent with his claims, because that would just result in a thread that would end up discussing not the topic but Randman's misinterpretation of the paper. Randman has made quirky misinterpretations of papers and scientists many times, and he always argues at length for them, and I informed Randman that EvC Forum would not be hosting these kinds of discussions anymore.
In sum, I'm very disappointed that Randman is apparently returning here after suspensions simply to be as difficult as possible. He is welcome to advocate any position he wishes as long as his conduct conforms to the Forum Guidelines. No one has ever been suspended at EvC Forum for their position.
Please, no replies.

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Message 305 of 309 (594372)
12-03-2010 9:05 AM


Moderator Warning
To All,
I know resisting temptation can sometimes be a significant challenge, but the main discussion forums at EvC Forum are not for taking potshots at the other side. They're for serious discussion of specific topics. If you're not constructively moving discussion of the topic forward, please do not post.
When you cannot resist the urge to go off the reservation Forum Guidelines-wise, please find a thread in Free For All or at least Coffee House.

--Percy
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