Re-Theory of Evolution

Hi Jaderli, I would tend to think it was because they had just studied the Big Bang, and solar system, just a little earlier in the semester. They were then being reminded that evolution had many forms. You can see the class schedule
Here Only that higher education teaches other theories of evolution than biological.Or are you saying that they are not telling the truth?God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Perhaps creationists could help alleviate this confusion by not constantly lying to the "man in the street" about what evolution is and pretending that the theory of evolution includes abiogenesis.If you guys are really finding that this lie is rebounding on you, and that the result is that the "man in the street" thinks that abiogenesis is as certain as evolution, you do not exactly have my sympathy.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Hi Jaderis, I didn't write the book, I didn't interpet the book, I did read where:Darwin put down a lot of information. From that information he drew his conclusions which included that God had breathed life into one or more forms.As far as Darwin was concerned the beginning of life was a part of his Theory of Evolution.I can understand why an evolutionist would not want to have to deal with the origin of life as part of the Theory of Biological Evolution since it is not known.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Dr. Are you saying Darwin was a creationist?God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi bluegenes, If it is strictly accurate, why not use it then.If brevity is needed use RAZD's ToBE.God Bless,

Wether he was or not is irrelevant. Darwin's religious views don't have any bearing on the modern Theory of Evolution.

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Hi Dr, That may be your opinion but I was told in:http://EvC Forum: What is evolution? -->EvC Forum: What is evolution? Since Darwin's conclusions was part of his book it becomes a part of the theory he introduced.Conclusions are what you arrive at after examining all the evidence I think, but I could be wrong.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

My impression is that the "other topic" concerned what (biological) evolution is. You went off-topic by getting into the definition of "evolution". Thus this badly titled and badly placed (wrong forum) topic.Now you seem to be dragging considerations of what (biological) evolution is into this topic.If you are satisfied about the meaning of the term "evolution" then maybe this topic should be closed. It's not the place to discuss biological evolution.Moose

Hi Moose,Its OK by me to shut it down.I was ready to do that when I introduced the information from Darwin's Book and the University of Michigan.The University of Michigan teaches other kinds of evolution.Darwin's book included his conclusions for the origin of life.The people here holding that Theory of Evolution = Biological Evolution will never accept anything else.They are as bad about something like that as the YEC's are about some of their belief's.I am satisfied and from now on when someone says ToE I will ask which particular type of evolution they are referring to.If other creationist will do this it will help keep the confusion to a minimum.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

You need to accept that "theory of evolution" = "theory of biological evolution" unless you have a real reason to think otherwise. Also, one must be in touch with the context. If it's a biology topic then it's most likely biological evolution.To do otherwise is to just be irrationally difficult.Moose

Hi Moose,I can not accept that, "theory of evolution" = "theory of biological evolution".That is not a fact.It may be a fact that almost all evolutionist on this site accept.So all I have to do is look around and see if I am in Rome and if I am do as the Romans do.I would be willing to accept that, "theory of evolution" = "theory of biological evolution".Provided there is nothing else that has evolved that "The Theory of Evolution" applies to.Since that cannot happen I will have to make sure what topic is being discussed and act accordingly.So we might as well put this baby to bed.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Is the phrase "one must be in touch with the context" not sinking in? Words and phrases have different meanings in different contexts. In the context of evolution equals biological evolution unless context or other information indicates otherwise.It would seem that you need to be filed under "irrationally difficult" on this matter.Moose

What you have to remember, and sorry for stating the obvious, is that a scientific theory is not defined by its name. When we refer to theories of evolution in any field of science, we are referring to a discrete set of mechanisms to describe a specific phenomenon. For example in biological evolution the theory describes the change in a populations genotype/phenotype over time from one generation to the next (and before you say it, yes I know this is a very simplified definition of the theory of 'biological' evolution).
Okay so I'm just a biologist, but as far as I understand you can't apply this definition to other theories of evolution, such as stellar evolution where stars/planets don't reproduce and there is no inheritance of traits from one generation to the next. Astronomy will have its own specific definition which describes the mechanisms of stellar evolution, and which obviously cannot be used to describe biological evolution. So you see although, as many have agreed, there are many theories of evolution in science, you can't just lump altogether just because they are all called theories of evolution.It is for this same reason that abiogenesis can't be conflated with biological evolution. The various hypotheses for abiogenesis mainly describe a series of chemical reactions which may eventually give rise to a self-replicating molecule. Once this self-replicating molecule appears, there is then the potential for the mechanisms described in the theory of biological evolution to act on it, but before this point any theory that arises for abiogenesis will be determined by chemistry, not biology.Edited by Meddle, : No reason given.

I'm sure that well less than one time out of thousand does anyone use the term "theory of evolution" to refer to anything other than the biological theory of evolution. If you accept this then you'll be making the correct interpretation at least 99.9% of the time. If you reject this then you'll be making the wrong interpretation at least 99.9% of the time.I don't think anyone here understands why you're so determined to be wrong.Why don't you try this experiment. Go to Google and type "theory of evolution" into the search box, including the double quotes, then peruse the first 100 pages (1000 hits) and see how many are references to anything other than the biological theory of evolution.I've looked through the first ten pages (100 hits) and found no reference to anything other than the biological theory of evolution. Not one of the hits was about stellar evolution or cosmological evolution or any other kind of evolution. There were all about the biological theory of evolution.This is because it is overwhelmingly the case that when people say "theory of evolution" they are referring to the biological theory of evolution. Even when they just say "evolution", especially here, it is extremely likely they're talking about biological evolution.If you approached a random group of people at a party already engaged in a conversation and you heard the word "evolution", what do you think they'd most likely be talking about? That's a rhetorical question, because unless you're at a university physics department party, they're very, very likely talking about biological evolution.--Percy

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