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Percy
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Message 61 of 65 (52832)
08-29-2003 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Asgara
08-28-2003 10:57 PM


Asgara writes:
Didn't you post some statistics on this once? I'd be interested in seeing that post again...you don't happen to remember the thread do you?
If you scroll down a ways in Message 21 of the Background info thread you'll see a few numbers. I don't know why I wasn't more detailed. I have the original SciAm article around somewhere and can probably dig it out if it seems helpful.
--Percy

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wj
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Message 62 of 65 (52856)
08-29-2003 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Quetzal
08-29-2003 2:41 AM


Quetzal
I think that the most appropriate type of person to take on the creationists is a generalist - someone who has a thorough but not specialist understanding of a wide range of scientific fields. The vast majority of creationist "arguments" have been around for many years and the scientific evidence which debunks them is relatively well know outside creationist circles. The difficulty is that such a person would need to have full time sponsorship to remain up to date with scientific advances in the relevent areas, monitor the occassional new creationist assertion and take on the creationists whenever they raise their heads. After all, Ham, Sarfati et al are full time, paid mouthpieces for creationism.

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Fedmahn Kassad
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Message 63 of 65 (52985)
08-30-2003 1:27 PM
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08-28-2003 10:57 PM


Here is a pretty good site with lots of detailed information on beliefs among the general population, broken down into various categories. As you can see, Creationists make up a small minority of scientists.
Beliefs of the U.S. public about evolution and creation
FK

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Charlemange
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Message 64 of 65 (53041)
08-31-2003 1:55 AM


  • ..........Creationist....Theistic....Naturalistic Evolution
  • Everyone...............44%..........39%..........10%................Nov 97
  • Scientists..............5%..........40%..........55%................
  • Everyone...............47%..........40%...........9%................Nov 91
  • Men....................39%..........45%........11.5%................
  • Women..................53%..........36%.........6.6%................
  • College graduates......25%..........54%........16.5%................
  • No high school diploma.65%..........23%.........4.6%................
  • Income over $50,000....29%..........50%..........17%................
  • Income under $20,000...59%..........28%.........6.5%................
  • Caucasians.............46%..........40%...........9%................
  • Afro-Americans.........53%..........41%...........4%................
The Gallup Organizations...at above url

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Fedmahn Kassad
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Message 65 of 65 (53067)
08-31-2003 10:23 AM
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08-31-2003 1:55 AM


It is also important to note that the scientist group includes professions like computer science and electrical engineering. In my experience, these two groups make up a disproportionate number of Creationists with science or engineering degrees.
FK

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