Snakes with legs? E or C?

One of the most fascinating discoveries is the ancient fossils of snakes with legs. The question lingers: Is it evidence for evolution or is it hard evidence for the Genesis record?The same Indian friend who I spoke to about the population problem of the evolutionary claim, is also an true bona fide American expert on all snakes. He confirms that even today you can see the evidence in Boas and Pythons that they used to have legs in the ancient past. However, what is observed is a loss of information and not a gain of new information!Even better. Genesis 3:14 mentions the curse that God gave to the serpent that the Devil used to deceive Adam and Eve. God literally cursed the genes of the serpent and its younglings would have been born without legs.Here is where history is consistent with science, and such consistant history is not to be logically overlooked for the sake of politics! For God had foreseen Satan's deception of evolution and spiked the punch with the curse He put on the serpent so that all will know that God is the "Creator" and He alone stretched out the heaven by His own understanding.I plead with you forum members to consider this defense of the Bible. None of you have to die forever! Evolution oppresses the truth of eternal life and cheats every person out of their free gift og salvation who believes it and deceives others who are now soul searching. God made it clearly known that He is the Creator and humanity is without excuse (Rom.1:18-32).Edited by Adminnemooseus, : "Sankes" to "Snakes" in topic title.

This is the third PNT that you have proposed in 24 hours. I am not going to promote a whole slew of topics with thinly veiled platforms for you to preach or blog.I am not inclined to promote this topic at this time, and I urge you to focus your energies on one of the three Proposed New Topics that you have submitted. I will not promote topics merely to give you an opportunity to have a platform for your preaching and/or ideas.If you wish to talk about snakes with legs, you have to choose between approaching the topic as a Science Topic or as a Faith topic...you cannot do both.Other Admins---feel free to weigh in on this matter.

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Phat,I'm prone to thinking this was a better topic to promote than the UFO one. I'm going to go ahead and send it to the Biological Evolution forum. Please let me know if in the future you'd prefer a conversation before I promote something like this.

Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

Not at all, lets get it rolling! I just wanted to keep Origen in check as to the number of PNTs open at once. We now have two going, so he really can't say that we are biased. He may find our members quite critical, however! How is this so? The Bible is not God! A believer in God can still be an evolutionist. The criteria is not as narrow as you think! Tell us now the evidence that you have about these snakes with legs in more detail.FOCUS: Science Forum........

And this is a problem for Evolution because...? If you can indeed show a "loss of information," you will then need to prove how it is in any way a problem for evolution. The Bible is not history. Perhaps I think YOU'RE the deceitful one. Check out this link:Page not found – Creation-VS-EvolutionTell us again how God cursed the snakes to not have legs...? You concluded all this from a bunch of shotty half-cooked evidence regarding the evolutionary history of snakes? And to think, here are us evolutionists out deceiving the poor masses of scientifically illiterate folk... when you've had the truth in your ass hand the whole time... .J0N

Fine. Give us his name and we can verify that assertion. Fine, provide us with a definition of information that can be debated. Simply a nonsense assertion refuted by Romans 1 which supports the Theory of Evolution.Believing in Biblical Creationism may not get one damned to hell, but will certainly mean having to pass Remedial Christianity before being admitted to Heaven 101.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

So when and why did God curse whales?__

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

The Bible most certainly is history. It may not be specifically a history book (and can't be, because it's many writings, not one), but it is definitely history. It may not always be accurate history, but it is history, nonetheless.

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Would you consider the tale of Osiris history? If so, then I can see how you would think the Bible is history.However, most of us would say that the tale of Osiris is simply mythology, like the stories in the Bible. And mythology is nothing like actual history at all... hence, they have a seperate word for it J0N

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I plead with you forum members to consider this defense of the Bible. None of you have to die forever!

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So can I deduce from this statement that the reason you believe in the Christian God is because you fear death?

The subject is "Snakes with legs", and this is in the "Biological Evolution" forum. A science topic.Adminnemooseus

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While we currently lack a definition of "information" from the creationist/ID camp, I would still like to pose this question:How exactly is the new ability to move swiftly and efficiently without legs not a "gain of new information?" New, specialized muscles are necessary for these actions.

Origen you used your topic discussion to preach and connect two unconnected subjects (ie snake legs with eternal salvation).Since you own this topic I think you owe archer a response to his simple inquiry...