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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5894 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Based on interesting side comments by hollygolightly and schraf in one of the interminable abortion threads, I got curious about instances of infanticide in nature. I spent a bit of time digging around in the literature looking for an evolutionary explanation for for this behavior. Predictably, most of the articles dealt with the genetic and/or chemical basis for aggression. Most of the documented behavioral examples in mammals dealt, of course, with male infanticide. What is strikingly lacking is any instance of female infanticide of their own neonates that wasn't either pathological or induced by extreme environmental stress. Again, this is only in mammals - many other organisms make little or no distinction. (A fascinating but rather gruesome article discussed how male and female sand sharks (Carcharias taurus) for instance, begin to prey on their siblings before they're born!)
The evolution of male infanticide is fairly straightforward. Although there are numerous proximate causes - from predation/cannibalism to inducing off-cycle estrus - the ultimate cause can be traced to increasing the male's reproductive success. Female infanticide, OTOH, appears to be limited primarily to non-offspring under normal conditions. Female wolverines (Gulo gulo), for example, will hunt down "foreign" infants in order to force the mother to abandon choice den sites or (in one study) limit future competition (although I have a problem with the idea of forward planning implicit in this explanation). In several Old World primate genera the dominant female will kill other females' offspring to reduce population pressure and provide more resources to her own. This latter may also be part of maintaining dominance. However, even in mousies and gerbils, the two examples given in the previous thread, female infanticide is ONLY associated with either severe stress OR virgin or inexperienced females. Does anyone have any documented examples of females of any species killing their own offspring (other than humans) under normal conditions? If so, does anyone have an evolutionary explanation for this exception to Hamilton's Rule?
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
I'm sure that part of it has to do with hormonal issues surrounding childbirth.
The question I have is whether or not any of your research showed paternal infanticide. That is, we know that males will kill the offspring of other males, but will they kill their own children under normal conditions? Of course, there is also the possibility, like many naturalists' reactions to homosexuality among the animals, that they simply cannot conceive of maternal infanticide except to claim that the mother was sick or nuts or "inexperienced." Thus, behaviour that they would call "aggression" were it coming from a father is classified as "stress" when coming from a mother. Hard to say. ------------------Rrhain WWJD? JWRTFM!
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Raha Inactive Member |
Hamsters?
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John Inactive Member |
The behavior occurs in various primates, depending on the social structure. I'd have to do some research to give specifics and sadly I do not have time right now.
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5894 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
The question I have is whether or not any of your research showed paternal infanticide. That is, we know that males will kill the offspring of other males, but will they kill their own children under normal conditions? I wasn't specifically looking for that, but there were a few cases. Although this may be a gross over-generalization, it appears that whether or not a father kills his own offspring is dependent on the reproductive strategy of the species. F'rinstance, in species with tight pair-bonding where the father assists in the rearing, paternal infanticide is apparently unheard of. One study discussed gerbils whose males are apparently murderous, blood-thirsty little sociopathic neonate serial killers - right up to the point where they father their first litter, after which they never kill any neonate again. At the other extreme, maximal "love 'em and leave 'em" species don't apparently make any distinctions. Male cheetahs will slaughter any neonate - or cub for that matter - they encounter. Territoriality, etc, also apparently plays a major role.
I'm sure that part of it has to do with hormonal issues surrounding childbirth. An article you might find interesting on this score, and in light of the above is Schneider JS, Stone MK, Wynne-Edwards KE, Horton TH, Lydon J, O'Malley B, and Levine JE, 2003 "Progesterone receptors mediate male aggression toward infants", PNAS 100:2951-2956. Appears we males have been seriously maligned all these years. It ain't testosterone AFTER all.
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5894 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Hamsters? Reference?
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5894 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Hey John
I noted that about primates in my OP - however they apparently kill only OTHER mother's sons... I'm basically looking for references to support or refute hollygolightly, schraf and now Raha's claims to the existence of maternal infanticide (own offspring). Any help is appreciated.
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Zhimbo Member (Idle past 6033 days) Posts: 571 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
McClure, P.A. (1981) Sex-biased litter reduction in food-restricted wood rats (Neotama floridana). Science, 211: 1058-1060.
Well nourished mothers feed all pups equally. Food-deprived mothers preferentially give food to female offspring, actively removing male pups from teats, often resulting in the deaths of the male pups. It's not out and out killing, and I don't know how widespread such things are, but that's one example. [This message has been edited by Zhimbo, 10-03-2003]
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Zhimbo Member (Idle past 6033 days) Posts: 571 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
Wait, you note "under normal conditions". I suggest that food-deprivation *is* a "normal condition". Food supplies vary. Is there a reason you're looking for examples not having to do with stressful situations?
If you're looking for non-"psychotic" behavior, so to speak, I think the example I gave is not a random "crazy" stress-induced behavior, but shows an adaptive response to normal fluctuations of food supply.
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Raha Inactive Member |
Well, I do not know much about it, since I have it from secondary sources only, but some people who have hamsters as their pets told me that it is quite common that female hamster eats her offsprins immediatelly (or very soon) after birth. So my "very short" remark was meant only as a suggestion for farther research. If this "story" is true, I am sure there would be some sources on the net about it.
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JIM Inactive Member |
In some periods of Roman history it was traditional practice for a newborn to be brought to the pater familias, the family patriarch, who would then decide whether the child was to be kept and raised, or left to death by exposure. The Twelve Tables of Roman law obliged the pater familias to put to death a child that was visibly deformed. Although infanticide became a capital offense in Roman law in 374 CE, offenders were rarely if ever prosecuted. A practice described in Roman texts was to smear the breast with opium residue so that a nursing baby would die with no outward cause.
In some cases, infanticide may have been practiced to eliminate children with birth defects or circumstances of birth deemed unfavorable for religious reasons. The extent of such practices is often widely debated; for instance, academics argue whether infanticide of children with birth defects was a standard practice in ancient Greece, or limited to occasional incidents. It has also been alleged that twins were, in some societies, considered unlucky and thus exposed, though again the extent of such practices is debated. Contemporary data suggests that modern infanticide is usually brought about by a combination of postpartum depression and a psychological unreadiness to raise children. It could also be exacerbated by schizophrenia. It is also attributed, in some cases, to the desire of unwed, underaged parents to conceal their sexual relations and/or avoid the responsibility of childrearing.
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Raha Inactive Member |
This thread was about infanticide among animals only, I think.
Among humans, it is much worse, I am affraid. Infanticide was commonplace in Victorian England. Nowadays infanticide is nothing unusual in China and India - in China they kill girls because only 1 child is "recommended" - and boys are more desireble, in India they kill girls because they would cost dawry if grown up. ------------------Life has no meaning but itself.
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John Inactive Member |
I found something that may interest you.
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Speel-yi Inactive Member |
The strategy for male rodents is to kill any young they can up until the point that they mate. Then they no longer kill. The reason is that there is a 100% chance before mating that the offspring are not theirs.
By Hamiltons Rule, since relatedness is nearly equal to zero, the benefit must also be near to zero as well. On average a male rodent will benefit by this tactic to pass their genes onto the next generation. Inclusive fitness dictates that the selfish genes will work the percentages from the standpoint of relatedness. I don't think it makes any difference whether the offspring are female or not. Female hyenas will kill off their litter mates in order to dominate their cohort. In humans, the practice of female infanticide is not uncommon, but this is mostly due to socio-economic reasons. Infanticide is most common with young women with low access to resources. In Victorian England there was a rash of impoverished women "accidentally" rolling over their babies in their sleep. So a law was passed that forbade women from sleeping with their babies to prevent "accidental" deaths to the babies. Ever since, Anglo-American women sleep separately from the babies. ------------------Bringer of fire, trickster, teacher.
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5894 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Thanks for the replies, everyone. This is the kind of discussion I was looking for.
Zhimbo: Thank you for the reference. I’m afraid my query wasn’t nearly as structured or formalized as it should have been. Remember, my curiosity was piqued by a side comment in another thread. I’m not really clear myself on what I’m looking for, although that’s firming up a bit as I research the issue. In the context of my original vague question, I’m not sure but that I’d consider food shortages to be abnormal conditions. I recognize, of course, that cyclical resource availability has a profound impact on population dynamics and evolution. However, even in that context, can you provide more info from the article you referenced (I don’t have access to Science articles that old on-line, and no access to a uni library)? Going only from the title, it appears that this isn’t necessarily a case of infanticide, but rather deliberate neglect — which has very clear evolutionary explanations. Even cheetahs, which have very few offspring and subsequently a huge genetic investment in each cub, will abandon young when food sources dwindle past a certain point. Permit me to expand on my initial question a bit: I think what I’m trying to get to (and it’s only now becoming clearer to me), is an evolutionary explanation for human infanticide. Whereas as several others have pointed out there are numerous instances in recorded human history where socio-economic or cultural factors render infanticide normative behavior (for the society in question), the behavior appears unique to humans. I think I’m trying to come at the question from the back end — seeing if a) there are satisfactory examples from nature where own-offspring infanticide is normative and b) there are reasonable adaptive or evolutionary explanations for it. So far, no joy. This is starting to appear like another example of where cultural evolution trumps biological evolution. In which case, tracing the biological/evolutionary component may be a fool’s game. Raha: I wasn’t trying to be facetious. (Well, only a little ). I’ve run across the hamster claim before, but the only references in the literature I’ve stumbled across thus far don’t describe the behavior. I was hoping you might know something off the top of your head, as it were. John: I know you’re not advocating the statements from the article. So just a couple of comments. This part from the article you referencedquote:is pretty consistent with the literature. See Zhimbo’s reference concerning the exact same behavior in wood rats. It’s a straightforward application of Hamilton’s Rule on kin selection. However, this partquote:while providing an explanation appears to beg the question of why — or more importantly, how and under what circumstances — the behavior evolved. If, as the emphasized portion indicates, this behavior is unique to humans and not manifested by our closest living relatives, then we have a serious evolutionary/causal disconnect. As I mentioned to Zhimbo, it may not be possible to trace the origins of maternal infanticide in humans by examining other organisms — culture trumping biology.
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