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Author Topic:   Potential falsifications of the theory of evolution
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Message 71 of 968 (588447)
10-25-2010 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Michael McBride
10-25-2010 5:26 PM


Re: I would focus on "potential falsifications"
Welcome to EvC! May you find your time here educational and instructive.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE ANY THEORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE
This is trivially true, simply because it's impossible to prove any scientific theory at all. All of science is tentative, pending the discovery of new evidence or a new explanation that better fits the observed evidence than the old. Newton's Third Law has not been scientifically proven, nor has any law of thermodynamics, nor has the Theory of Evolution. None has and none ever will.
There is no way to Observe the origin of the universe
There is nothing preventing us from observing the evidence left behind from the origin of the universe and develop scientific theories based on those observations. In the exact same way, there's nothing preventing us from observing the evidence left behind from the history of life on this planet and develop scientific theories based on that evidence.
The Theory of Evolution is what science has developed based on the evidence we see about the history of life. It is the best explanation of the evidence we see and has no contradictory evidence. If you disagree, provide a better explanation or produce the contradictory evidence, then claim your Nobel Prize.
However, it is interesting that Creationism has not changed OR been updated since its original state. This is interesting, seeing as Evolutionists have to update their theory when something new happens.
Yes, and this distinction is one of the (many) facts that shows that the Theory of Evolution is scientific and Creationism isn't.
Mother Nature as the Deity!
Then I'm sure you can find many examples of biologists who worship Mother Nature. Unless of course you knew this was false when you said it....

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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subbie
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Message 312 of 968 (593478)
11-27-2010 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 288 by Kaichos Man
11-27-2010 4:23 AM


First things first
The initial problem that any IDiot has in falsifying the ToE, demonstrated quite aptly by Kaichos, is that before anyone can falsify anything they first have to understand it. I've yet to see any creo of any stripe who had any idea what the ToE actually says.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 328 of 968 (593870)
11-29-2010 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by ICANT
11-27-2010 7:48 PM


Re: First things first
I'm quite curious about two things:
What do you mean by "direct evidence?"
Even if there is no "direct evidence," why isn't the massive body of indirect, physical, circumstantial or whatever-adjective-you-care-to-apply-to-it evidence sufficient?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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