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Author Topic:   Transitional fossils not proof of evolution?
Damouse
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From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 82 of 223 (316459)
05-31-2006 12:39 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Hyroglyphx
05-30-2006 9:49 PM


Re: Speculations
"Progress is an inevitable part of science. If we plateaued in the fields of science and became trapped in a stasis of our own, I'd be concerned. But what if scientific progression actually determined that the ToE was falsifiable? What if its been doing that slowly, but surely, all along? Would you still cling to it? Some would dogmatically go down with the ship to til last breath. I was on the evolutionary boat ride, but I recognized holes in the hull and jumped ship. "
Truth is always better then a lie. Always. The search for truth seems to lead you down a path of lees evidence, however.
To the referances of a sinking ship, what is this, a political party?! As to scientific progress, its the only option. And by your own standards, science could not uncover proof of an all powerful creator unless it wanted to be found. So unless your god is hiding or trying to trick the human race, who has now reached a 30% aetheist rate in the united states, it is impossible tha science will EVER point to him. what will it discover, a bloody spear? or perhaps the Ark of the covanent itself.
If the ToE was falsifiable, i would question mine and everyone elses belifes. But increasingly its becoming obvious that religion really was "the opiate of the masses", and only that. Proof of a divine force is heavily lacking.

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 5018 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 115 of 223 (317201)
06-03-2006 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by mr_matrix
06-02-2006 9:49 PM


Re: Speculations
Here is something that clearly defies genetics: the myth of the 99% similarity between humans and chimps. This is not true. This exaggerated estimation was based on an experiment in the 1980s whereby only a group of protien were compared and not the entire genomes. These protiens where in humans and chimps where found to be 99% similar. However, those are some of the most basic and necessary proteins found in almost all organisms and not only in humans and chimps.
Actually, you're wrong.
Very wrong.
After the Human Genome project was completed, the Chimpanzee project was initiated along with a host of other animals' genomes. The results were published in 2005 in a Nature article. In comparison, the scientists list a 2.7% differance to the human genome.
Wait, this was 2005?! it can't be! That must mean you were wrong!
Oh...

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 5018 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 120 of 223 (317273)
06-03-2006 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by pompuspom
06-03-2006 4:23 PM


Re: I have no faith..
There are no transitional fossils. Over the last few years I've thought..strange how there are no extinct species of ape? They've all been dug up and classified as human ancestors. All of them are human ancestors. To me now, evolutionary theory is infantile.
How did bats evolve? Where are the transitional fossils? Is there a bat with, say, shorter wings in the fossil record? I used to be a believer, (in evolution) but not any more. If you follow some illustrations through on how such animals evolved, it defies common sence. I am now reading Darwin's Black Box, by Michael J. Behe. The biochemical challence to evolution. I have gone over to the creationist camp, based on evidence, not faith. Just a few questions.. (unrelated). Can coal be carbon dated? It is carbon isn't it? And how does the carbon date work on carbon that is supposed to be 200 million'ish years old? What would happen to the carbon isotope after that many years?
The coal shows an age of about that old, why? The whole isotope would have gone down into the next isotope. I.e. if it were carbon-14, it would now be carbon-12, and so forth.
to your convoluted theory of a lack of links, see the post above this one. Honestly, do your homework and look for them. They're there.

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 5018 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 124 of 223 (317306)
06-03-2006 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Chiroptera
06-03-2006 6:03 PM


Re: I have no faith..
By the way, welcome to EvC. I look forward to your contributions here.
by hook or crook, you are welcome here .
Edited by Damouse, : No reason given.

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 5018 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 126 of 223 (317319)
06-03-2006 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by Belfry
06-03-2006 6:20 PM


Re: I have no faith..
and if you ever fail to do your homework again, you're getting a saturday....

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 5018 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 151 of 223 (318008)
06-05-2006 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by arachnophilia
06-05-2006 12:56 AM


Re: hush
i could point you to a member or two that annoys the hell out of everybody, but that would probably violate the forum rules
rofl... oh wait.
btw, what are grounds for suspension?
and what was said about keeping up with the frogs? In other words, huh?

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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