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Author Topic:   Transitional fossils not proof of evolution?
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Message 46 of 223 (315936)
05-29-2006 10:35 AM
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05-29-2006 10:01 AM


Two points.
The first relates to the number of gaps. It seems that everytime we do find a fossil that fits nicely into one of the existing gaps, all we seem to have accomplished is to create two new gaps.
Second, as predicted by the TOE, we are finding more and more evidence that the Cambrian Explosion was not where all of the different critters first appeared. In this thread I provided links to some of the recent findings of pre-cambrian Bilaterian fossils just as one such example.
The issues revolving around what once was called the Cambrian Explosion is just another example of the Biblical Creationists not keeping up with what is actually known.

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Message 144 of 223 (317584)
06-04-2006 12:11 PM
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06-04-2006 11:33 AM


Flying Snakes
recently several videos of flying (well gliding actually) snakes have been published on the net. You can see some here.

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Message 148 of 223 (317711)
06-04-2006 7:00 PM
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06-04-2006 6:51 PM


Re: Flying Snakes
More videos. These I came across not long ago.
Flying snakes

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Message 165 of 223 (327450)
06-29-2006 10:16 AM
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06-29-2006 6:12 AM


Re: I've changed my mind
Growth and learning is fun isn't it. Keep following where it leads. But also, please remember that many of us also have no problems with what the evidence shows us actually happened and our faith. All the TOE does is show us "How God Really Did It."
We still believe the answer to many questions is "goddidit" just like the YECs and Biblical Creationists do, only we have an idea of how.

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Message 168 of 223 (333431)
07-19-2006 4:13 PM
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07-19-2006 3:35 PM


Millions of them. Likely billions of them.

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Message 171 of 223 (333517)
07-19-2006 8:06 PM
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07-19-2006 8:01 PM


Have you ever actually held a fossil? Do you know what a transitional is?
All fossils are transitional. They are snapshot of life in transition.
Maybe before we go any further, particularly since the sites you've linked to are so full of misinformation, we should find out what you think a transitional might be?

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Message 176 of 223 (333529)
07-19-2006 8:27 PM
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07-19-2006 8:20 PM


on transitional
Your post to nosyned just above pointed to what may be your problem. The TOE never suggests that there would be some critter that is half fish and half frog, and in fact, should something like that ever be found it would definitely mean we all need to step back and look at the theory again.
The Theory of Evolution does not say that there would ever be something like that, rather that the transitions will be small and happen of relatively long periods of time. Even what is called rapid evolution covers a period of tens of thousands of years.

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Message 180 of 223 (333533)
07-19-2006 8:37 PM
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07-19-2006 8:31 PM


Re: What is a transitional.
are you a scientist?
If you really want a scientist I can set you up with one in a mentoring discussion.
If that sounds good (it will prevent piling on and you getting overwhelmed with responses) just reply and I'll set it up for you.

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Message 198 of 223 (341083)
08-18-2006 1:28 PM
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08-18-2006 1:09 PM


Lithodid-Man needed on aisle....
The member you want to watch for on this specific issue is Lithodid-Man. He will be happy to expound on horseshoe crabs.

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