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ringo
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Message 63 of 95 (340331)
08-15-2006 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by mr_matrix
08-15-2006 1:36 PM


Re: Bad design is a myth
mr_matrix writes:
This life is intentionally designed with some difficulties and harsh conditions, and diseases are part of these difficulties and they do not constitute examples of bad design.
So, if an engineer intentionally designed a car that would flip over without warning - just to keep drivers on their toes - you wouldn't consider that a bad design? What if he deliberately designed the paint to flake off? Or the windshield to cloud over as time passed?
You wouldn't consider him a bad designer?
Most of us would consider a good designer as one who designs things as well as he can, with as few flaws as possible - not one who deliberately puts flaws in to consternate his customers.
You seem to have a lower opinion of your Designer than we do of our designers.

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ringo
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Message 66 of 95 (340369)
08-15-2006 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by mr_matrix
08-15-2006 5:57 PM


mr_matrix writes:
Just watch how many coming replies will focus on the disease and bad design....
You're the one who brought up bad design with your "Bad design is a myth" Message 62. Don't complain if people respond to it.
How can disease not be bad design?

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Message 73 of 95 (340416)
08-15-2006 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by MangyTiger
08-15-2006 9:08 PM


Re: Bad design is a myth
MangyTiger writes:
I have said on numerous times that we cannot say whether a design is good or bad or not without knowing the requirements it is trying to satisfy.
I'll admit I'm looking at it from the viewpoint of the "customer" - but the greedy-corporation scenario doesn't really apply, does it?
I know that Ford, Chysler, et al. are trying to screw us out of every cent they can, but how can you apply that to "The Designer"? I mean, what would he/she/it have to gain by us wearing out "prematurely"?
My other excuse for taking the customer's viewpoint is that it's the only viewpoint we have. If we don't know the designer's intentions, we have only our own expectations to go by.
(By the way, wouldn't mange be an example of bad design?)

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