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jaywill
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Message 16 of 19 (286024)
02-12-2006 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Phat
02-12-2006 2:37 PM


Re: Living Water flows far
I wonder if He did allof this just for Earth or whether there are other people or "nations" out there in the vast array of galaxies?
I don't know. But I think the whole thing was created for God's kingdom.
My feeling is that He has some use for these worlds. But this is just my opinion based upon Isaiah's word that the extent of His kingdom and of peace will know no end.
The Bible has much symbolism for water, (River of Life, etc) air,(Luke 7:24, John 3:8) and fire...(notice that the lake is a lake of fire.) Lakes stagnate. Rivers flow.
Yes, the river of water of life depicts God dispensing His life and nature into His people. He has no end, like a river. He can continue to flow, to impart, to dispense His Spirit into us for eternity.
The lake of fire in Revelation is a sea stream of fire flowing from the judgement seat of God in Daniel. The stream of fire flows all the negative things in the univese into a repository of a lake of fire. This is like a universal trash can where all the unclean things of sin will be swept by the judgement of God.
"I watched ... And the Ancient of Days sat down. His clothing was like white snow, And the hair of His head was like pure wool; His throne was flames of fire, Its wheels, burning fire.
A stream of fire issued forth and came out from before Him. Thousands of thousands ministered to Him, and ten thousands of ten thousands stood before Him.
The court of judgement sat, And the books were opened" (Daniel 7:9,10)
In Revelation this stream of fire flows into a lake of fire. It is also called "a glassy sea like crystal" (Rev.4:6). And in Revelation 15 it is also described as "a glassy sea mingled with fire" (Rev.15:2)
I believe that the lake of fire discribed as a glassy sea mingled with fire and like crystal signifies that everything will eventually be transparently crystal clear that is under God's eternal judgement. There is left no question, no doubt, no argument, no misunderstanding. All that is under the divine condemnation of God will become exceedingly clear in its evil, rebellious, and filthy nature.
God makes no mistake about what and who He condemns to eternal destruction. And everyone else will also be as clear as crystal about what is to be condemned.
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Phat
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Message 17 of 19 (289454)
02-22-2006 5:14 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by jaywill
02-12-2006 7:07 PM


Re: Living Water flows far
jaywill writes:
God makes no mistake about what and who He condemns to eternal destruction. And everyone else will also be as clear as crystal about what is to be condemned.
One thing I never understood was why God allowed some people to be condemned. Why have the wicked suffer? If they are unworthy, why not just wipe them out so that they cease to exist?
Why subject the wicked to eternal torment? Sadistic? (Im playing devils advocate here!)
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Message 18 of 19 (289515)
02-22-2006 10:09 AM
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02-22-2006 5:14 AM


Re: Living Water flows far
One thing I never understood was why God allowed some people to be condemned. Why have the wicked suffer? If they are unworthy, why not just wipe them out so that they cease to exist? Why subject the wicked to eternal torment? Sadistic? (Im playing devils advicate here! )
To play 'let's compare and contrast', the Jewish faith does not believe in an 'eternal hell' for the most part. Although there are exceptions (the afterlife is not well defined in Judaism, on purpose), the general consensus is that a soul might be 'purified' for up to a year before going to heaven. Those souls that are too corrupted to be purified are granted obliviation.

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jaywill
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Message 19 of 19 (290803)
02-27-2006 7:10 AM
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02-22-2006 10:09 AM


Re: Living Water flows far
Ramoss
the general consensus is that a soul might be 'purified' for up to a year before going to heaven. Those souls that are too corrupted to be purified are granted obliviation.
Where is there anything in the Jewish faith about going to heaven?
There's nothing in the New Testament teaching that God want's people to go to heaven forever to be saved, though it does talk about heaven some and even some temporary visits there.

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