Manna from Heaven. What the Grossness? (Ex. 16)

Your imagination is good enough to make up these parts:

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The amazing part here, IMHO, is the exquisite description how it landed from atop: slowly so it could be plucked from the air; a hoary mistlike covering on top [to keep it clean], and a cover at its bottom [as a serving plate] - talk about 5-star quisine. Message 58

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Here's the entire description in your own reference:

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And when the layer of dew was gone up, behold upon the face of the wilderness a fine, scale-like thing, fine as the hoar-frost on the ground.

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Nobody saw it come down at all, never mind slowly. Nobody plucked it from the air. There's no mention of coverings, top or bottom.If you're just going to make stuff up, why should I waste time with you?

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Whoah. Its not a stuff up. I will post you more on this later. But the descriptions I already posted well alligns with what I said w/o contradiction and alternative, if anything it is far more equisitively portrayed.'.. a fine, scale-like thing, fine as the hoar-frost on the ground.' - this refers to a packaged enclosure encasing the manna. My extent of my original point here was, this story which is so unimaginable and based on a miraculous premise, is very well and authentically described - as if it really did happen.

No it doesn't. Hoarfrost doesn't have an enclosure encasing it. It should be pretty clear to anybody reading this that what you claim is in the Bible is just made-up bullshit.

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What is your take on the frost being mentioned in this context - does it refer to a weather report?

It says that the manna looked like hoar frost on the ground - fine and white. That's all.

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Disclaimer: The above statement is without a doubt, the most LUDICROUS, IDIOTIC AND PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WILLFUL STUPIDITY, THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN OR HEARD.

Do you even know what hoarfrost is?

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I know that the OT writings are pristine and contextual, and in this case, there was no weather report being issued - the corrupt reading here if so applied. I note that, the hoary frost [imagine a spider web clothing], is applied to the 'scale-like thing' [the manna which descended upon the ground] - not the surrounding environs! The mann being referred to as 'thing' alligns with the peoples' recording bewilderment at this thing, which also says they never saw anything like it.

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And when the layer of dew was gone up, behold upon the face of the wilderness a fine, scale-like thing, fine as the hoar-frost on the ground.

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Nonsense. It says it looked just like something they were very familiar with, hoarfrost.When you continue to post stuff that shows you are simply making shit up, why should anyone believe anything you say?

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says that the manna looked like hoar frost on the ground - fine and white. That's all.

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That's also a sufficient reason for eliminating this was not a weather report, or the said hoaryfrost was not connected with the Manna. That it appears like it was a hoaryfrost lieing on the ground, is condusive to the oral law descriptions, the manna appeared to be delivered in a fine cuisinic fashion, to protect it from the sand, insects and birds. If the manna miracle is condoned here - the frost being specifically attached to it, is not so far fetched.The descriptions throughout the desert wanderings appear very logically described, and caters to real phenomena. The pillar of fire protected against invaders and the freezing conditions at night; while the day time pillar of cloud offered protect from the desert sun. The camps never knew their direction in this uncharted region, thus it says the camp stayed or moved as the pillar of fire dictated - and that there were 42 such stops before reaching canaan.here, aside fromn such events being provable, there is the attaching factor its descriptions are well condusive to a reality: if it occured, it would have occured exactly as described.

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Nonsense. It says it looked just like something they were very familiar with, hoarfrost.
When you continue to post stuff that shows you are simply making shit up, why should anyone believe anything you say?

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It seems your making up what you accuse. I am not making up anything which is not clearly and fully backed by the actual text:

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15 And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another: 'What is it?'--for they knew not what it was. And Moses said unto them: 'It is the bread which the LORD hath given you to eat.

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...so how did you conclude they were associating this with frost - and that they never knew what frost is!?Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

I did not conclude that. I said that the passage says it looked like hoarfrost.You know, folk can read the posts up thread. Look at Message 68.You even quoted what I said. Exodus 16:14 says "4And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground. "So now, not only are you making stuff up but you are misrepresenting what others say and even quote what they said showing where and how you misrepresented them.Is there any wonder that people look at your version of Christianity and simply run away laughing?

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You even quoted what I said.

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Nonsense. It says it looked just like something they were very familiar with, hoarfrost.
When you continue to post stuff that shows you are simply making shit up, why should anyone believe anything you say?

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No, what I said was, the frost description was connected to the manna. There is no other connections here.

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Exodus 16:14 says "4And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground. "

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So now, not only are you making stuff up but you are misrepresenting what others say and even quote what they said showing where and how you misrepresented them.

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Do you see, it says WHEN THE DEW WAS GONE UP - meaning the manna was then clearly seen, and this was a 'small round thing', then clarified by Moses this was the manna. Your comprehnsion is widely varied from mine.

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Is there any wonder that people look at your version of Christianity and simply run away laughing?

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Hardly. I am giving only an OT version, held for some 3000 years, and seen in its ancient commentary.Whatever is being said in your posts should be stated as your preamble: are you saying the described hoaryfrost is NOT specifically connected to the manna? What are you referring to that people are laughing: I am laughing at you too? Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

My posts will stand. Let others read and make their own decisions.

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What is your position concerning the manna - was the frost connected to it or not? I believe this is a simple issue of textual comprehension, and thereby the OT distinction as being the highest form of grammar possible. Though it is such an ancient text, it takes the current generation to task nicely.

No, the frost is not connected. And my position on the manna is that it is an unimportant plot device used by the different authors of the various stories to get to other points as presented in Message 6, Message 11, Message 13 and other messages throughout this thread.

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