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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Teaching a machine to speak, not coding it. Oh, you're talking about machine learning? We've been doing that for two decades. The most recent result of that research has been face-recognition software - you can't program a computer to recognize a face, but you can program a computer to learn and to be taught, and then you can teach it to recognize faces. I suggest you read this article:
Machine learning - Wikipedia And then follow some of the links where they show specific machine learning systems.
If you say the human body does not appear to have been designed I don't believe you. If you say it looks designed then you don't know anything about it. What designer would design the human retina to be inside-out? That's right - the nerves and blood vessels that connect to the light sensitive cells are on top of them, where they block a lot of the light. In one spot - the blind spot - the need for the nerve bundle to punch through the retina to go to the brain prevents light-sensitive cells from even growing. That's why you're blind there. Who would design something like that? It doesn't make any sense. Most organisms have retinas that are right-side out. That's intelligent design? More like stupid design.
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WS-JW Junior Member (Idle past 6131 days) Posts: 30 Joined: |
If you think a few minor flaws like that would mean it is not still mind bogglingly complex and efficient. Then your wrong.
don't ask me that who created God question. He has always been there. Would you like to answer where time and matter came from?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
If you think a few minor flaws like that would mean it is not still mind bogglingly complex and efficient. Would a perfect God make even a little mistake? How does that make any sense?
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WS-JW Junior Member (Idle past 6131 days) Posts: 30 Joined: |
Maybe in his wisdom he did it on purpose as he forsaw problems. Reasons you can't imagine or discuss/laugh about as you can't make a human. Now i'm not saying he did, I don't know. but little things like this don't pose a problem. If I build something incredible, then you find a scratch on it, it doesn't mean it's poorly designed, and now not incredible. and it CERTAINLY doesn't mean that because of this flaw I do not exist, and it came about by chance.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
If you think a few minor flaws like that would mean it is not still mind bogglingly complex and efficient. Then your wrong.
But its hardly a perfect design, the alleged designer made mistakes in humans that she didn't make in other organisms.
don't ask me that who created God question.
Who's talking about "God"? Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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WS-JW Junior Member (Idle past 6131 days) Posts: 30 Joined: |
but a design all the same.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Maybe in his wisdom he did it on purpose as he forsaw problems. This is circular reasoning. No matter what the human body is like, you'd define it as "intelligently designed." It's just a nonsense argument. The human body has the superficial appearance of design, but it evaporates as you look closer, and we have an enormous amount of evidence that proves that it's all just the result of evolution.
Reasons you can't imagine or discuss/laugh about as you can't make a human. I'm pretty sure my wife and I can. Without even hardly trying, even. In fact it's a lot harder to not make a human, doing what we do.
If I build something incredible, then you find a scratch on it, it doesn't mean it's poorly designed, and now not incredible. If you build a car, but you build the headlights so that they point backwards at the engine instead of towards the road, we're entitled to wonder if maybe, just maybe, you're not as great as you're claiming to be.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
What? That's not even a complete sentence.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 857 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
crashfrog writes: Would a perfect God make even a little mistake? How does that make any sense? Have you or anyone else noticed that when an anti-science fundie argues for ID, the human body is perfect but when they argue against evolution, the human body becomes more 'degraded' after each generation due to the fall? Whatever lie fits the occasion I guess.
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Vacate Member (Idle past 4621 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
WS-JW writes: The human body is incredible, and incredibly efficient and complex. Like food digestion for example. it wastes absolutley nothing. Just a minor quibble. If this is correct, why the need for toilet paper? It seems you forgot about human waste.
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Larni Member (Idle past 184 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
gert writes: No chemical reactions can cause cognition or consciousness. You are quite right, I totally agree! It is an electrochemical reaction that carries cognition or consciousness.
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Annafan Member (Idle past 4599 days) Posts: 418 From: Belgium Joined: |
Maybe in his wisdom he did it on purpose as he forsaw problems. Reasons you can't imagine or discuss/laugh about as you can't make a human. Now i'm not saying he did, I don't know. but little things like this don't pose a problem. If I build something incredible, then you find a scratch on it, it doesn't mean it's poorly designed, and now not incredible. Well, it DOES mean that. Especially when a "designer" has already done it CORRECTLY in another organism? I mean, how stupid can you be? Especially when you're supposed to be omnipotent and therefore surely able to correct 'mistakes' (then again, how would an omnipotent being make mistakes???) Why come up with ten different ways to achieve something, some clearly superior to others, and then just KEEPING the flawed systems in operation? That's very poor design.
and it CERTAINLY doesn't mean that because of this flaw I do not exist, and it came about by chance. Nobody says you don't exist, and nobody says you came about by chance.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
What's your point? Er ... mockery?
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Larni Member (Idle past 184 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
WS-JW writes: Maybe in his wisdom he did it on purpose as he forsaw problems. Reasons you can't imagine or discuss/laugh about as you can't make a human. Now i'm not saying he did, I don't know. but little things like this don't pose a problem. If I build something incredible, then you find a scratch on it, it doesn't mean it's poorly designed, and now not incredible. and it CERTAINLY doesn't mean that because of this flaw I do not exist, and it came about by chance. Poor form to bring the supernatural into a science fora and provide no positive evidence for your assertation.
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Doddy Member (Idle past 5930 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: |
gert writes: If you think that thinking is caused by chemical reactions, you're lying to yourself. Why do neutrons [sic] fire? Why do they fire when they do? By feeling, I wasn't referring to the sense of touch, I was talking about emotions. Can you truly believe that your consciousness is simply caused by electric pulses? Thought, emotions, consciousness, and personality are beyond the physical world. These things can't evolve. Please, for the love of the neural correlates of consciousness, start a thread on this topic for me, so that I can unleash the full fury of my neuroscience education onto a thread without pushing it off of its designated tracks. Contributors needed for the following articles: Pleiotropy, Metabolism, Promoter, Invertebrate, Meiosis, DNA, Transcription, Chromosome, Tetrapod, Fossil, Phenotype, Messenger RNA, Mammals, Appendix , Variation, Selection, Gene, Gametogenesis, Homo erectus and others. Registration not needed, but if desired, register here!
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