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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
By that standard, the United States were "destroyed" when they ceased to be part of the British monarchy. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Jazzns Member (Idle past 3229 days) Posts: 2657 From: A Better America Joined: |
Not to mention that the 'destroyed' meant in the prophecy means physical destruction. Unless of course we abandon literalism.
Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
It rememds me a lot of horoscopes: "You will suffer a serious setback." "It's true! I hit every red light on the way to work today!" Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 5671 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
Holy galloping goalposts randman! According to the site search function you have posted 9 messages prior to the one I am replying to:
Ever since you've joined the thread you've either been adamantly asserting that Alexander razed Tyre to the ground (or rock to be more precise) or asking for evidence he didn't. Now when evidence is offered you're suddenly redefining what 'destroying a kingdom' means? Did you think we wouldn't notice? Oops! Wrong Planet
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randman ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 4216 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
I asked for some substantiation and got next to nothing. My understanding stands. Alexander laid siege for months, eventually broke through, slaughtered thousands of the men of the city and sold thousands into slavery; apparently destroyed mainland Tyre and threw it into the sea, etc,...
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 5671 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
So the fact that 18 years after the siege of Alexander there was a city capable of withstanding another siege which lasted over a year doesn't make you think that maybe Alexander didn't destroy Tyre? Several people also pointed you at the history of Alexander written by Flavius Arrianus which - as a source Faith provided explicitly says - makes it clear Alexander didn't destroy Tyre.
So now it's just the mainland part of Tyre that was destroyed and not the island? Oops! Wrong Planet
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b b Member (Idle past 5449 days) Posts: 77 From: baton rouge, La, usa Joined: |
"The Roman levels of Tyre are of such importance that every effort has been made to preserve them. To determine the exact location of eariler Phoenician and Canaanite levels soundings are being made throughout the excavated areas.
Roman Tyre thus has been preserved for present and future generations to see and to admire." http://tyros.leb.net/tyre/ Roman Tyre does seem to be gone
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kuresu Member (Idle past 1830 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
pray tell me, what of this part of the prophecy, that Tyre shall never be rebuilt?
as you well know, there is still a Tyre. And notice how it says that the whole of Tyre will be destroyed, not just this specific building or that section. All of Tyre. And that none of Tyre will be rebuilt. And you know something, there's a city called Tyre sitting on top of its old stomping grounds. Want to help give back to the world community? Did you know that your computer can help? Join the newest TeamEvC Climate Modelling to help improve climate predictions for a better tomorrow.
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 2915 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
Which is it, randman? Was Tyre destroyed through physical leveling (as you say in Message 65 and earlier posts) or annexation (as you say in Message 56)? . Edited by Archer Opterix, : Mood indicator. Edited by Archer Opterix, : Brevity. Archer All species are transitional.
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 2915 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
Lith,
Thanks for taking the time to share this. Fascinating. I was appalled at the way that Nazarene pastor betrayed both your parents' trust and yours. . Archer All species are transitional.
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iceage ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 5232 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
I started reading thru this topic that rose for the ashes and found it was answered way back by NosyNed at Message 19
With enough liberal interpretation any prophecy about the destruction of any city-state anywhere in the world would be eventually spot on. The wording on the prophecy is very specific plain language that any warrior could understand - should it not be read literally? Of course the prophecy about Egpypt also in Ezekiel suffers from the same unfulfillment.
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fishmicon ![]() Suspended Junior Member (Idle past 2707 days) Posts: 3 Joined: |
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Phat Member Posts: 16085 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined:
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First of all, I would like to thank the banned spammer for reopening this topic. While our friend Lithodid-Man, a college professor from Alaska, is long gone, I was able to read some of the conversation and of course it spurred me into some replies.
Abandoning ones faith often stems from an all or nothing mentality. As I have said before, I learn more from arguments which I disagree with than I do from arguments and positions that I agree with. Im quite certain that I believe without evidence. The only evidence I have is my subjective beliefs. Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo One of the major purposes of debate is to help you hone your arguments. Yours are pretty bad. They can use all the honing they can get.~Ringo
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