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IamJoseph
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Message 241 of 242 (458459)
02-29-2008 1:19 AM
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01-19-2008 10:26 AM


Bobby Darin.

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IamJoseph
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Message 242 of 242 (458460)
02-29-2008 1:55 AM


The fundamental variance between creationism and non-creationism:
The universe is finite. The BBT could not have occured [even if it is a valid theory] without an external impact - and a finite universe negates an external impact.
Here, even a self-starting universe is not possible, when tracked back to its original starting point. The usual explanation is, there was a particle and it exploded - by and of itself. What is not explained, or not explainable, is how can a particle, saturated to filled up bursting point [saturated with what, and coming from where?!], accumulate to an exploding point, when the phenomenon of 'exploding' is not explained as its first emergence, nor where does it explode to - when there was no 'to' to explode into?
One cannot say whatever exploded became the space and expanded out - because we have not even reached that point at this instant, which assumes a phenomenon called space and of expanding. For the same reason, we cannot say heat and energy made it happen - these forces could not have come pre-BB, which means they could not be within the BB starting point.
The premise of accumulated imbalance also cannot apply, whereby variances of heat and presurre caused positive and negative factors which became force flows and contracted to matter: because of the recipient factor. IOW, a thing cannot expand unless where it expands to acts as a corresponding recipient - and this did not exist either side of the BB.
The above makes me conclude only an independent factor, transcendent of the BB, would have to prevail in this scenario. The trigger factor is the missing link in the BBT.
The BBT can be countered, by assuming whatever one wants as the original entity. That entity would have to contract, and perform an 'IMPARTING' of itself, constituting the first action, namely the first verb. Secondly, a recipient factor would have to prevail - namely an object, which can only be accounted by what was imparted from the original entity, possessing the same emulation property, namely to impart of itself, continually, or via a seed factor able to continue. And if a treshold is placed beween the original enity and the imparted entity - the latter would not be able to ever prove the original entity. Humans can no longer look outside the circle, because the circle is all: the circle is the expanded original particle, namely the imparted entity, which has become the expanded centre. The original BB particle is now the universe - only the diameter has enlarged.
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