Prophecy for Buzsaw

The Bible says the mark is a number. (666)We are predicting that the mark will manifest as such via implanted chip technology that contains the prefix 666.The Revelation text is clear:Mark of Beast = number 666."those who receive the mark" = What I argued above.Of course it hasn't happened yet. I am just theorizing how it actually will.My theory is very plausible. Thats all.Those who aren't worried about it = those who will take the mark without batting an eye.

And more power to you. But you're not providing what people are asking for. People are asking for a specific place where barcodes, cashless societies, and chip implants are mentioned in the Bible, without the need for a personal theory as to what the Bible means.

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"Good evening. I'm playing the role of Jesus; a man once portrayed on the big screen by Jeffery Hunter. You may remember him as the actor who was replaced by William Shatner on Star Trek. Apparently Mr. Hunter was good enough to die for our sins, but not quite up to the task of seducing green women."
-Stewie Griffin

Isn't this a self-denying prophecy?Implantable RFID technology exists; let's say that Mastercard institutes a program where you can have an RFID implanted somewhere in your body, which you can swipe over a reader instead of supplying cash or a credit card. (Mobil does something like this at their gas stations, only it's a keychain fob instead of an implant. Same tech, though.)Now, the chip can be implanted anywhere on the body. The forehead is inconvinient, but wouldn't they refuse to implant on whichever hand you say is in the Bible, just to avoid associations with you Revelations kooks?Furthermore, RFID codes are unique but arbitrary. By the same motivation of avoiding associations with people like you, wouldn't they specificaly not have the ID's start with the Mark of the Beast? That's obvious, I would think.While implantable RFID for commerical purposes might come to be, it will never start with 666, simply because people like you say that the Bible predicts it as a harbinger of the end times. It simply won't happen, precisely because people like you say it will. Isn't that exactly the number they wouldn't have it be?

You evos can link fossils with missing gaps but you are saying in this context that unless the Bible says "barcodes, chip implants, cashless, etc.etc." you cannot see what is meant. You evos can discern "the weather" like the N.T. says but the signs of the end times are suddenly baffling.You understand but don't want to admit it.Nobody said barcodes and such are mentioned in the Bible.I said we are theorizing how the mark of the beast passage will manifest.We have the said text.I supply the information as to how the text will come to pass.The theory is very plausible because we are at the infancy stage now.When the prefix 666 is pasted upon each implant numerically then you evos will just say coincidence !That is your standard reply when cornered, IOW its true but not really.I could care less if you fail to see what any honest 4th grader could understand.Nobody said the Bible said thus and such, we are just explaining how the passage will come to pass.

If you're so sure, why not put money on it? Come on, I'll give you 10:1 odds.Oh, and just in case you missed it the last time: the mark of the beast is not 666; it's Xi-Chi-Digamma, and is both a number *and* a name. It is not "three sixes" - it's a 600, a 60, and a 6 (Xi means "600", and can never mean "6"; Chi means "60", and can never mean "6"; etc).By the way, does anyone else find it amusing that he's trying to back up the accuracy of biblical prophecy by citing something that he claims will happen but has not happened? This message has been edited by Rei, 09-24-2004 03:45 PM

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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

Funny how you smart crank artists can understand complicated science but this 6th grade IQ test material stuff is a stumper.Nobody involved with the predicted 666 chip implant technology believes a word about Revelation.Nobody will alter technology to evade Biblical "nonsense".666 is the perfect working numeral for computers.We shall see or rather you shall see I will be gone.

Right. Unless the Bible doesn't mention those things, it's not predicting those things. That's an obvious point of "prophecy", WT. The stuff you add to the prophecy later, as you're doing now, doesn't count as the original prophecy.You can do this to literally any sufficiently vague statement, you see. I could interpret "London Bridge" as a prediction of the stock market crashes in the 30's, if I wanted to. But that doesn't mean it is. No, you and Buz have both said that. You've been very specific that the Bible predicts "cashless" electronic transfers and other things. Marketing people aren't idiots, WT, and they've heard of this stuff before. The fact that you just predicted it means that "666" will never, ever appear as any part of an implantable RFID system.

The text says 666 is the markof the beast - not a matter of opinion.Of course your God-sense removal penalty maybe working at an extreme level.

Show me where I said it.Why would I say that when I know it doesn't say that ?

No, of course they don't. Don't call us idiots, WT, and then act like such a jackass. It should be obvious to the most casual observer with any intelligence whatsoever that it doesn't matter that they don't believe it.They know that some of their customers might believe it, and as a result, they'll stay the hell away from "666" in any sort of implantable chip. Of course they will. They'll alter literally anything they have to to get superstitious idiots who might, just might give your nonsense credence to go along with implantation.Marketing people aren't idiots. They know that people are squeamish about chip implants, and everybody's heard this Mark of the Beast nonsense. They'll do anything they have to to distance themselves from your horseshit, just to get one more person to go along with it. No, it's a shitty working number. It's three octals long.

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The text says 666 is the mark of the beast

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No It Doesn't. Here is the greek text..It says Xi-Chi-Digamma (Digamma is also known as "stigma")It is both a number (six hundred sixty and six), and a name (KhXW). The greeks didn't use special characters to represent numbers; they used their alphabet. Furthermore, they didn't use "significant digit ordering" to imply the powers of the digits like we do - they actually had different letters assigned for 1-9, 10-90, 100-900, etc, making the ordering irrelevant.Hence, the passage:"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." (Rev. 13:17)It is a name, and it is also a number. But it is not three sixes. A bar code or chip that has three sixes in it won't be Xi-Chi-Digamma unless those are the only digits in the code. Xi is not six; it's 600. Chi is not six; it's 60.This message has been edited by Rei, 09-24-2004 03:56 PM

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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

Good gravy, man. I was only pointing out that you were answering a different question than the one that was asked. I understand what you're predicting... I was simply asking where the Bible predicted it.Although since you bring it up, I happen to disagree with you in this case... insofar as I don't think it's blindingly obvious that the word "mark" automatically means "cybernetic implant". In fact, I would go so far as to say that the word "mark" implies that there's a visible mark on the skin, not that anything would be placed under the skin where you can't see it. But that's just me, I guess I'm a literalist.

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"Good evening. I'm playing the role of Jesus; a man once portrayed on the big screen by Jeffery Hunter. You may remember him as the actor who was replaced by William Shatner on Star Trek. Apparently Mr. Hunter was good enough to die for our sins, but not quite up to the task of seducing green women."
-Stewie Griffin

Don't lecture me about greek - you couldn't write your name in greek if your life depended on it.Assert as you wish.The text is accurately translated to reflect what the original means.Funny how you recognize the veracity of the greek except when in Romans 1 it rips your worldview to shreds.

We shall see Crashfrog - we shall see.BTW: Don't get insulted and red-faced - YOU initiated insults in Message 348

Personally, though I know my way around the Hebrew some, Greek is still Greek to me. Nevertheless, it is my understanding that the word translated as "mark" in Revelation is always the Greek term "charagma".

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charagma: a scratch or etching, i.e. stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): graven, mark (Strong's Exhaustive Concordance)

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charagma denotes "a stamp, impress," translated "mark" in Rev. 13:16, etc. (Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)

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http://www.glondon.com/whatis.html

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Also, what Rei is saying is not only spot on, but is also extremely pertinent:

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Rei

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It is a name, and it is also a number. But it is not three sixes.

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It is not "three sixes in a row", it is the sum of a name. As such, it is interesting to note that some of the older manuscripts record that the number of this name is 616.Amlodhi