The Bible is literally true, but each detail is not.

Cyote wrote: "and there is a mountain of evidence that shows no such flood happened at that time (in fact, there is no evidence for a worldwide flood at any time).
Creationists refuse to accept the scientific evidence and cling to any hint of support for such a flood. These worldwide flood myths are a classic example.hi coyote,when you say there is no evidence for a world wide flood, how does science explain the remains of mammoths and rhinoceroses in different parts of the earth, Some of these were found in Siberian cliffs; others were preserved in Siberian and Alaskan ice. In fact, some were found with food undigested in their stomachs or still unchewed in their teeth, indicating that they died suddenly.And then there is the fossil remains of many other animals, such as lions, tigers, bears, and elk, have been found in common strata, which may indicate that all of these were destroyed simultaneously.some would view this as possible evidence

That fact they are found in common strata simply means that they lived in the same areas. There are many ways that an animal could die with food in its mouth.

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bluescat48 wrote:"That fact they are found in common strata simply means that they lived in the same areas. There are many ways that an animal could die with food in its mouth."i think what it shows is that there is a lot about our world that we just dont know...for me, the question is..."is a global flood plausible" and i have to say that it certainly is a plausible explanation for some of the phenomena that we see todaywater has been everywhere...even in the middle of the desert regions of Australia...sea shells cover millions of hectares of land out thereim not trying to say that it is evidence of the biblical flood, but i cant say that its definitely NOT evidence for it... it gives the bible flood plausibility

These would be the ones grasping at straws.The dead megafauna span a considerable time, rather than being all associated with a single date. The evidence for some of the extinct elephants suggests death from blizzard/ice storm rather than flood.The various critters you mention, lions, tigers, etc. have indeed sometimes been found in the same strata. A number of these (not lions) have been found in the La Brea tar pits of southern California. For example, there have been quite a few sabre-tooth tigers (Smilodon californicus) found. A number of these were radiocarbon dated a while back, and provided a range from 12,650 to 28,000 years ago. Not exactly evidence for a flood about 4,350 years ago.That is pretty much the case for all of the things you mentioned. They are scattered over a huge time span, and show no evidence of being killed by a flood.Indeed, when we look at the last 10,000 or so years archaeologically we generally see continuity of human cultures, fauna and flora (except for the megafauna), DNA, and various annular indicators such as tree rings, lake sediments, ice cores, etc. There just is no evidence of a global flood.There are smaller, more localized floods that have been found. Check out the following link describing the Channeled Scablands of southern and eastern Washington:http://www.uwsp.edu/...ticipants/dutch/vtrips/Scablands0.HTMI did some fieldtrips into that area in grad school. There is some fascinating evidence there of these post-glacial flood episodes. If archaeologists and other specialists can find this evidence, they should be able to find a much younger and much larger flood.The evidence just isn't there.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

cheers coyote, i agree that the animal finds themselves do not prove a global flood and yes it could just be circumstantial that living creatures were quick frozenI guess if im asking if its plausible that the earth could have been covered in water, then i would have to say that evidence says its plausible“there is ten times as much water by volume in the ocean as there is land above sea level. Dump all this land evenly into the sea, and water would cover the entire earth, one and one-half miles deep.” (National Geographic, January 1945, p. 105)we dont know what the structure of earth was several thousands of years ago, so if it was flatter then it is today, then i would have to again say its plausible.

I've seen this claim by many creationists but none have backed it up. What evidence do you have that living creatures were quick frozen? I'm not asking about animals that died and were frozen shortly afterwards, I want animals that were frozen while still living.

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That area hasn't always been a desert. Yes water has been virtually every place on this planet, just not at the same time. Even the Sahara desert in Africa was at one time fertile flora & fauna producing land.
Over time climates change. the change in levels of Carbon dioxide change the climate dramatically. Very low quantities lead to ice ages, very high quantities lead to global warming. These changes cause dramatic changes in the land, climate and the populations of animals & plants.

the mammoths in siberia that have been found with grass still in their mouths and undigested in their guts

Actually, we do.Just look at the materials preserved in the soils or the fossils in the rocks and you can tell a great deal about the environment.Sea shells? You're under water.Land plants and reptiles? You're above water.This is not rocket science. Geologists, archaeologists and a host of other -ologists have been working on this for quite a while.There really is no convincing evidence for a global flood, and you are grasping at straws with your "plausibility" ideas.

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How is this evidence that they were frozen alive instead of dying shortly after eating and then being frozen?

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Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
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Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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Oh, really? Reference please?

there are a number of related sites you can view, here is one with pictures No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.geocities.com/stegob/mammoth.html
or...
info on the Berezovka mammoth found in 1901 with grass in its mouth
No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-03/953730757.Sh.r.htmlEdited by Peg, : another url added

DrJones wrote: "How is this evidence that they were frozen alive instead of dying shortly after eating and then being frozen?"well firstly, if an animal is in distress, it does not eat
2ndly, if an animal is sick, it does not eatso the fact that these huge animals were found with undigested food in their guts and grass still in their mouths, indicates that they died very suddenlyalso interestingly, in the United States, England, France, southern Spain, Germany, Russia and elsewhere huge fissures in the earth have been found filled with the remains of large numbers of animals. They include mixtures of bones of the elephant, rhinoceros, hippopotamus, reindeer, horse, hog, bear, and many others. One such cavern near Palermo, Sicily, yielded more than twenty tons of bones
the fissures are located on isolated hills at considerable height With regard to the variety of animal remains found in one bone cave, the book Earth’s Most Challenging Mysteries asks:“What made rabbits run into the same cave as coyotes? And an antelope with a wolverine and a grizzly? Bones of the mastodon were found, also a few reptiles ... The whole mass of bones was covered and preserved by a flood deposit of gravel and rocks.”i keep hearing people say there is no evidence for the great flood, but i keep finding itthere is also geological evidence as well.

you may be right, but im sure you'd agree there are a lot of strange phenomena to be foundsuch as large masses of granite and hard metamorphic rock being traced to Scandinavia, yet scattered over the plains of Denmark and northern Germany. The same has been seen in America and eastern and western Canada, and elsewhere. ... sometimes even the elevation they are found on is much higher than their source.
The Ice Age and Its Work I. Erratic Blocks and Ice-Sheets, by Alfred Russel Wallaceit seems like a the earth has a lot of explaining to do if a flood wasnt the cause ... again though, this evidence makes the flood plausible Edited by Peg, : insert coyote wrote at outset

Oh i dont know...im trying use the quote box, but its not working for meabove post was reply to Coyote who wrote: "There really is no convincing evidence for a global flood, and you are grasping at straws with your "plausibility" ideas"