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Topic: Noah's Ark
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nator
Member (Idle past 2463 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 46 of 302 (203637)
04-29-2005 11:18 AM
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Reply to: Message 36 by Specter
04-25-2005 10:06 AM
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Re: The Great Leviathan-Is he still alive?
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Does anone here think the Great Behemoth and great Leviathan from Job 40 and 41 still exist?
Is there some kind of big creature with a huge-treetrunk-like schlong? I sure hope so.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1637 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 47 of 302 (203649)
04-29-2005 12:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 45 by Specter
04-29-2005 9:30 AM
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Re: Some believer you are!
i'm terrible at public speaking, actually. otherwise, i had breifly considered going into law.
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Nighttrain
Member (Idle past 4287 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: 06-08-2004
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Re: Some believer you are!
No need to be a orator to be a lawyer , `rach, just so long as you are devious.
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Cthulhu
Member (Idle past 6145 days) Posts: 273 From: Roe Dyelin Joined: 09-09-2003
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Re: Some believer you are!
I never knew Leviathan was mentioned somewhere other than Job. (And Psalms. I think.) In those accounts, Leviathan sound a lot like a crocodile, as long as you remove the firebreathing part, which can easily be accounted for by the telling and retelling of a story. Now that I see that Leviathan is mentioned elsewhere, I retract my assertion that Leviathan was based off of exaggerated accounts of a crocodile, because I was in error.
Proudly attempting to Google-Bomb Kent Hovind's website
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1637 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Re: Some believer you are!
No need to be a orator to be a lawyer , `rach, just so long as you are devious. actually, i wanted to work pro-bono civil rights issues. *shrugs*
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Specter
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Should be...
That's only logical. I see you as a debating lawyer, and also as a theologian.
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Adminnemooseus
Administrator Posts: 3984 Joined: 09-26-2002
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Message 52 of 302 (204960)
05-04-2005 12:41 PM
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Topic drift alert
You know... I saw it somewhere... Some indication that the topic was about... was about... Noah's Ark, that's it, Noah's Ark! Now where might I have seen that? Adminnemooseus
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Specter
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Topic drift alert
Topic drift is a problem in itself. We shgould make a new forum thread about it !!! But seriously, the great leviathan and Noah's Ark are very coexistent. Now, why couldn't Noah take the Leviathan on the ark? Obviously it was too big. Therefore, the Leviathan was able to travel to another part of the world during the Flood. And it most likely settled in the Slavic regions... And about the behemoth...why aren't we talking about him? If Job was the first authored book in the bible, then was this after or before the Flood? Of is the book of Job a human fable? This message has been edited by Specter, 05/05/2005 10:01 AM
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JonF
Member (Idle past 461 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: 06-23-2003
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Message 54 of 302 (204983)
05-04-2005 2:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 53 by Specter
05-04-2005 1:20 PM
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Re: Topic drift alert
Now, why couldn't Noah take the Leviathan on the ark? Obviously it was too big That wasn't the criterion. All things with the breath of life were to be taken. Therefore Leviathan did not have the breath of life.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1637 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 55 of 302 (204999)
05-04-2005 3:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 53 by Specter
05-04-2005 1:20 PM
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Re: Topic drift alert
Now, why couldn't Noah take the Leviathan on the ark? Obviously it was too big. leviathan is associated with the waters of the great deep, the primordial chaotic state of the universe before god came along and created the earth and heaven. when god floods the earth, he does it with this water. leviathan would have been right at home.
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Specter
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Message 56 of 302 (205246)
05-05-2005 10:07 AM
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Exactly!
Did yo unot understand? The Leviathan would have been right at home, but it would have also swam about. That wasn't the criterion. All things with the breath of life were to be taken. Therefore Leviathan did not have the breath of life. Oh yeah, JohnF, there is a serious doubt in my mind that breath was the criterion. But just in case I'm wrong, please show me the verse, translation, and source from which you gathered that information. I'm always ready to accept new Truths. [by the way...If it's New, it's probably Not True.]
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jar
Member (Idle past 132 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 57 of 302 (205247)
05-05-2005 10:11 AM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Specter
05-05-2005 10:07 AM
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Re: Exactly!
Genesis 7:14-16
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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JonF
Member (Idle past 461 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: 06-23-2003
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Message 58 of 302 (205259)
05-05-2005 11:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Specter
05-05-2005 10:07 AM
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Re: Exactly!
Oh yeah, JohnF, there is a serious doubt in my mind that breath was the criterion. But just in case I'm wrong, please show me the verse, translation, and source from which you gathered that information. I'm always ready to accept new Truths. King James. Genesis 6:17, Genesis 7:15, Genesis 7:22. These verses are often interpreted by YECs to mean that only terrestrial creatures who breathed using lungs were to be taken on the ark; that is, fish and insects and a few other things didn't go. It's a way of reducing the space required on the ark in a vain attempt to make the story more plausible. For example, After devastation ... the recovery:
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In the Flood, everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died; the only ones to survive were those with Noah in the Ark (Genesis 7:21—23) ... 2. Many species plants, microbes, insects, amphibians and aquatic creatures survived within the blast zone, if not in adult form, then as seeds, spores, eggs and/or larvae. It is noteworthy that God brought only birds and air-breathing land animals to the Ark. ...
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1637 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 59 of 302 (205491)
05-06-2005 2:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Specter
05-05-2005 10:07 AM
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Re: Exactly!
All things with the breath of life were to be taken. Therefore Leviathan did not have the breath of life. i don't see any mention of noah taking fish. or whales for that matter, which breathe air. noah built a boat, not a submarine.
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Gen 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
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Specter
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Re: Exactly!
I'm sorry ,Arachnophilia; I forgot to register that quote of yours as a quote in my last post. I didn't originally write that!
JohnF writes: All things with the breath of life were to be taken. Therefore Leviathan did not have the breath of life.
By the way, what does mean? And JohnF, thank you for the website (After devastation ... the recovery). This message has been edited by Specter, 05/06/2005 10:00 AM
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