Many years ago while working as a volunteer fireman, we got a call. "Come quick", the voice said, "The whole world's on fire". Then there was a click and the line went dead.

From the front of the building we could see a column of smoke rising over the tree line. We sent one of the guys up into the hose tower (a 100 foot tall structure where we hung hoses to dry) to see if he could get a better location. When he came down he said it appeared to be out past B&A Boulevard so we sent a 4-wheel drive attack truck headed off in that direction and put the tanker, pumpers, ambulance and main equipemnt on ready status.

About fifteen minutes later we got a radio transmission from Field Truck #2 saying, "Come quick. The whole world's on fire".

End of transmission.

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Message 122 of 302 (209030)
05-17-2005 12:27 PM

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05-16-2005 11:00 PM

Re: The Old Fart reminisces

The moral is very simple. The original caller as well as the folk we sent out on site found a bodacious big fire. Their response was "The whole world'son fire".

Now those of us still lounging at the fire house could reach over, place our hands on the wall (one of the key tests when a call came in at night. If the wall was not yet hot, the fire was not close enough to be threatening and so you could safely go back to sleep) and be assured that in fact, the Whole world was not on fire.

So it was with the Great Flood.

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Message 124 of 302 (209040)
05-17-2005 1:34 PM

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05-17-2005 12:43 PM

The Babylonian Myth as source?

I'd say it was one of the sources.

But floods were something extreme, yet familar to all civilations that grew up on plains. In the case of the Biblical Flood Myths I imagine there were multiple sources, Babylonian, possibly part Egyptian as well as several local tales.

The biggest reason to lean towards Babylonian and local sources is the bit about rain. The Biblical myth definitely connects local events, long monsoon like rains, with the arrival of the waters and a slow drain off period. That is an entirely different flavor than the Egyptian floods which came regularly and where the cause of the flood was hidden from knowledge.

The Biblical flood myth seems to point to something unusual, a unique event (or events) as opposed to something that happened regularly and is seen as totally destructive in nature as opposed to the Egyptian view where the flood is considered life giving.

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Message 126 of 302 (209657)
05-19-2005 12:08 PM

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05-19-2005 9:40 AM

Re: The Whole World's On Fire

Sure. It may not even have been all of Babylon but only one small valley or town.

Either way, it destroys our interpretation of God.

Why? And even if that were true, what relevance does it have?

Are you concerned with your interpretation of God or GOD?

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Message 130 of 302 (209684)
05-19-2005 1:27 PM

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05-19-2005 12:50 PM

Meaning of the Flood myth.

Mike, the Secret Service Agent, said that he would lay down his life to save the President. Unfortunately, the opportunity never arose.

Was mike's commitment less real?

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Message 190 of 302 (232969)
08-13-2005 12:00 PM

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08-13-2005 11:36 AM

God a Liar?

And yes Nuggin, the whole world descended from Noah and his family.

If that were true would we find that the age of genetic lines is the same for all creatures on earth?

What you are doing is calling God a liar, and the Bible a book that missleads millions of people across the globe.

No he is not calling GOD a liar. Believing in the Flood would be calling GOD a liar. Yes, the Bible has mislead millions of people across the Globe.

You think God would want to deceive us?

Well you can have it one of two ways. If the Bible is literally true then GOD is a liar and deceiving us. If the Flood happened then GOD is a liar and deceiving us. If the earth is only 6000 years old then GOD is a liar and deceiving us.

OR, GOD is not lying and the Bible is wrong.

Pick your position.

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