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Author Topic:   Homosexuality and the bible yet again
berberry
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Message 16 of 23 (157483)
11-08-2004 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Buzsaw
11-08-2004 10:17 PM


I can answer that, buz. It's describes god's punishment for a certain group of people who had lied about god. Obviously these are heterosexual people who god is forcing into homosexual acts. Pretty repulsive, yes, but if god wanted to punish gays equally he would force them into repulsive heterosexual sex. I suppose that means that gays haven't lied about god.
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pink sasquatch
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Message 17 of 23 (157485)
11-08-2004 11:09 PM
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11-08-2004 8:20 PM


Hi dpardo,
You emphasized, "for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature."
Could this meaning anything other than lesbianism? For example, if one considers the "natural use" of women to bear and raise children, perhaps not doing so (by choice or biology) would be considered "against nature"?

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Message 18 of 23 (157486)
11-08-2004 11:11 PM
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11-08-2004 10:17 PM


Lam, what do you think Romans 1:26,27 means?
about as much as me saying "i think being gay is wrong"
paul is not god. having him say "god hates you because you have gay people" is exactly the same as jerry fallwell's statement that 9/11 was god punishing people for being gay.

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Message 19 of 23 (157487)
11-08-2004 11:14 PM
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11-08-2004 11:09 PM


Could this meaning anything other than lesbianism? For example, if one considers the "natural use" of women to bear and raise children, perhaps not doing so (by choice or biology) would be considered "against nature"?
personally, i think paul means that they were holding positions in society contrary to paul's ideology. he indicates in other letter that he thinks women should shut up, stay at home, and do dishes.
the whole passage does not talk about homosexuality, it seems to be listing grievances: devil worship, women out of their place, and men screwing each other.

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Message 20 of 23 (157490)
11-08-2004 11:19 PM
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11-08-2004 11:14 PM


personally, i think paul means that they were holding positions in society contrary to paul's ideology.
This would be my interpretation as well.
God was quite explicit in Leviticus' "man shall not lie with man as with woman"; I don't see why, if He was speaking through Paul, He would be so ambiguous in Romans.

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Message 21 of 23 (157497)
11-08-2004 11:31 PM
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11-08-2004 11:19 PM


God was quite explicit in Leviticus' "man shall not lie with man as with woman"; I don't see why, if He was speaking through Paul, He would be so ambiguous in Romans.
i don't think god had anything to do with paul's writings. they are advisory letters to churches under his direction. his opinions of how things should be done, and MUCH of it is tainted by very obvious bias. he's against women, effeminate men (like jesus?), homosexuality, and probably jews.

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Message 22 of 23 (157510)
11-09-2004 12:00 AM


Hey admins, could one of you merge this thread into the other and close this one? We don't really need 2 of the same topic going at the same time.

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Message 23 of 23 (157514)
11-09-2004 12:16 AM
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11-09-2004 12:00 AM


Can't merge topics - But this one closed
Duplicate active homosexuality and the Bible topic.
This one closed.
And I certainly hope that this is the last homosexuality and the Bible topic you ever start - Give it a rest.
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