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Originally posted by Karl:
I've heard the rope/camel point before - since the gospels were written in Greek, Greek is the relevant language.

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Just a small note: though the gospels do appear to have been written in greek-- there is a some debate that aramaic is the original language, which I have been looking into lately-- aramaic was certainly a major language of the region at the time, so mixing and matching a bit would be the human thing to do.------------------
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Hi doc,Glad to see you again.What is your take on the authorship of the New Testament? Several people lately have been claiming that the original was in aramaic and saw then translated to greek. They are using this to, imho, wiggle out of some uncomfortable scriptures.Myself? There seems to be some minimal evidence for the aramaic hypothesis, but not enough.
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Originally posted by doctrbill:
There are plenty of English version to wriggle into. Who needs another foreign lanuage version?

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The argument is that an apparant contradiction in the greek text is due to a an error in translation from the (purported) original aramaic.Thanks for the info.Take care.------------------
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Originally posted by doctrbill:

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Originally posted by John:
The argument is that an apparant contradiction in the greek text is due to a an error in translation from the (purported) original aramaic.

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Even if both genealogies worked for purposes of the argument, the case breaks down for other reasons. There are many messianic prophecies which Jesus did not fulfill.

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Jesus did not bring home the Jews dispersed among heathen nations.
He did not sit on the Throne of David (i.e. become king and rule Israel).
He did not save Israel from its enemies (i.e. the occupation army of Rome).
And he did not restore the sovereign State of Israel.

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Failure to accomplish these requisites disqualifies him from the title: "Messiah".

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Yep. I am aware of these, and more. I'm just trying to take it one at a time.------------------
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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
. I can't believe this has sat here for so long without being destroyed.

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Oops! I'm apologize. I've been slacking.

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Is it possible that you have misinterperted these prophesies to mean an earthly kingdom when God really meant to build a lasting kindom?

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You've got one major problem with the logic. You've pushed large portions of the prophecies into the future. This means that you cannot use them to determine that Christ is the messiah. You claim that these will be fulfilled, but as yet they have not been and so we must wait and see. You must use prophecies that have already been fulfilled, and I think you'll find that the picking are slim.------------------
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What, specifically, do you feel was concealed by the KJV?------------------
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Did you even bother to compare diverse translations of the passages that I posted to that of the A.K.J.V.?

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Yes.What exactly do you feel has been concealed? Some detail would be nice.------------------
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