The point doctorbill made was that Genesis, amongst most religious stories, is not intended to impart knowledge about the real world; it is intended to supply spiritual advice and to explain events in a supernatural, often metaphorical manner. Attempting to use it for the former purpose is pointless, because it doesn't contain anything remotely suitable. Your counterargument was wrong -- "since Jews made useful discoveries, their holy writings must be useful for finding advanced knowledge" -- a post hoc fallacy because it is simply not the case that one followed from the other.
Firstly, I don't believe that man should look to Genesis for a exhaustive scientific explanation of how the cosmos run. If that were the purpose of the writing of the Bible then perhaps we would have had 66 books just to discribe what water is.
I am not trying to argue for ICANT here. And I don't agree with ICANT on some of the things he insists.
And, admittedly, I have not read all of the discussion, but parts of it here.
But you seem not to show a similar concern for the prejudice displayed by doctrbill. You pounce on ICANT because his association of Jews with great science. But you didn't pounce on doctrbill with his association of no science achievements from "God's chosen people."
I don't think your critique was even handed. At worst ICANT just over adjusted the prejudice displayed by doctrbill.
As for the wonderful Age of Enlightenment, it has also been argued that it was the FREEING of the Bible from its Catholic prison, in which only the priestly class could read it, and its liberation into the hands of the masses, that helped to bring in such an atmosphere of free thinking and enlightenment.
In other words, Mr Skeptic, Enlightenment was not when the Bible was LOCKED UP from the greater population but when it was liberated to be READ by the masses.
I know correlation does not necessarily means causation. But it has been argued that freeing of God's word brought in clearer thinking, exploration, reformation, and scientific enlightenment.
The late Christian philosopher Francis Schaeffer I believe argued this way.
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