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Author | Topic: Links for the Creation/Evolution Controversy (not a debate topic) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
CRR Member (Idle past 2605 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
Every gene in (almost) every cell of the body is present in two variants -- so called alleles: one is deriving from the mother, the other one from the father. In most cases both alleles are active and transcribed by the cells into an RNA message. However, for a few genes, only one allele is expressed, while the other one is silenced. The decision whether the maternal or the paternal version is shut down occurs early in embryonic development -- one reason, why for long it was thought that the pattern of active alleles is nearly homogeneous in the various tissues of the organism.
The new study (DOI:10.7554/eLife.25125), where CeMM PhD Student Daniel Andergassen is first author (now a PostDoc at Harvard University), uncovers a different picture. By performing the first comprehensive analysis of all active alleles in 23 different tissues and developmental stages of mice, the team of scientists revealed that each tissue showed a specific distribution of active alleles.https://www.sciencedaily.com/...ses/2017/08/170818092138.htm |
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CRR Member (Idle past 2605 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
A forthcoming book by biologist J. Scott Turner, Purpose & Desire: What Makes Something Alive and Why Modern Darwinism Has Failed to Explain It, is a real shot across the bow of modern evolutionary biology.
Read an excerpt from Purpose & Desire here.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9666 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
I fear it may not be quite what you think it is
"....writing his third book, currently titled "Biology's Second Law: Evolution, Purpose and Desire", which builds the case that evolution operates through the complementary principles of Darwinian natural selection (biology’s "First Law") coupled to homeostasis (biology’s "Second Law")." He at least seems like a real scientist but he's funded by the Templeton Foundation which is a very large flashing red light.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6259 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X56fBK1JlY&list=PLsmqeqK...
This is a series of 12 short videos, each a couple/few minutes long and which briefly answer some common questions about and objections to evolution. The titles are:
#1 What Is Evolution, Anyway? #2 Is Evolution Random? #3 Have We Ever Seen Evolution Happen? #4 Can Evolution Make an Eye? #5 Have We Ever Seen A New Species Arise? #6 Evolution Is Dumb #7 Why Do Men Have Nipples? #8 Does Evolution Violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics? #9 Can Evolution Create Information? #10 Why Are There Still Monkeys? #11 Are Humans Still Evolving? #12 Does Evolution Have a Point? In the comments section of the last video, I found this little ditty:
quote: BTW, the title screen is a sketch of Darwin with an extra-long beard in which we see 12 finches nesting. I didn't try it, but apparently you can choose any of the 12 videos by clicking on the appropriate finch.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6259 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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YouTube video, part of a series. This one is an interesting examination/explanation of natural selection using an a-life simulation. A population with a few defined traits (eg, speed, size, sensing range) are run through many generations and the results are graphed out and discussed. Basically, what we would assume to be more advantageous traits (us playing "intelligent designer") doesn't always match what prevails in an actual system.
Share and enjoy! Edited by dwise1, : subtitle
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PaulK Member Posts: 18082 Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
David Macmillan describes how he came to see that Young Earth Creationism was untenable.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6259 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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That article links to another by MacMillan, How I Stopped Believing the Earth Is 6,000 Years Young: My fascination with creationism ultimately led me to embrace evolution.
quote: And concluding:
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1807 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Another poor creationist succumbs to the spell of sophisticated word magic. Even though he supposedly retains much of his creationist mindset, in reality he lost it in the classroom.
As I began doing real academic research, though, I saw over and over that deep time and evolutionary biology have real, demonstrable applications. But they don't, that is an illusion created by the word magic.
Medical research that depends on evolution seems suspicious to me. As well it should because there is no medical research that depends on evolution. Typically this kind of mistake comes from the habit of treating microevolution as part of evolutionary theory, and that's probably because creationists don't make enough of the fact that microevolution is really just the built in variations that belong to the genome of each Kind and that macroevolution cannot possibly follow from it.
I still assume exposed rock layers on a cliff face represent a global, cataclysmic flood. And they do. Too bad evo word magic talked him out of that one too. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
You do realize that the title of this thread is
Links for the Creation/Evolution Controversy (not a debate topic) don't you? That means no debate. ModsCan we not have Faith and my comments deleted? Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 1807 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If you look at "Thread Details" it would appear this thread has been used for debate for a very long time already
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6259 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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So then yet again you did not read the source, but rather you "reply" out of ignorance. That has never worked for you before, so why would you think that it would work for you here?
From PaulK's Message 126 we follow the link to David MacMillan's Path Across the Stars: Everything I gained when I left science denial behind (trimmed down a lot here -- follow the link for the full story):
quote: Over the decades I've been collecting testimonials from ex-creationists; David MacMillan's is just the most recent. The first I heard of were the ICR-trained creationist geologists doing petroleum exploration field work who suffered severe crises of faith when faced with rock-hard geological evidence that the ICR had told them did not exist and could not exist if Scripture were to have any meaning. It wasn't any your phony "word magic", but rather a massive dose of reality in the form of actual evidence. In all the other testimonials, what led them away from creationism was learning what the science actually is and says and what the evidence actually is. In contrast, creationism relies and very heavily depends on misrepresenting the science and the evidence to create a fabric of lies and deception to feed its audience. The only way for that to work is for their audience to be ignorant and to remain ignorant. The last thing that they want is for their audience to go and learn the actual science, even when the motivation is like David MacMillan's: to prove creationism to be true. Instead, the outcome is always to expose creationism's falsehood and deceptions. Creationists are the ones who deal in "word magic", with you as a prime example in how you continually redefine the meanings of words in your desperate attempts to change reality. Creationists use words and definitions to deceive and confuse and convince, like the worst kinds of shyster lawyers. In contrast, science uses words and definition to describe their observations as clearly as possible. Furthermore, science does not simply proclaim its conclusions and expect you to accept them unquestioningly, but rather it demonstrates how it arrived at its conclusions, including starting from the most basic physical/chemical/biological processes and building upon those to develop all levels of scientific thought. Given a scientific explanation, you can analyze all the physics et al. that went into it and you can test it. Most scientific explanations can stand up to and survive such verification and testing -- indeed such verification and testing is SOP in science. Given a creationist explanation, it almost immediately falls completely apart when you attempt to verify or test it. Those experiences are not lost on creationists who bother to learn the science, nor was it lost on David MacMillan. That was the point in providing these links here. Your nonsensical complaints of non-existent "evo word magic" are worse than useless, serving only to expose how intellectually and morally bankrupt creationism and those religions that depend on it are. If you want to continue with this, then please start a topic. Edited by dwise1, : Final suggestion
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Upon review, I see that this was indeed not intended to be a debate topic. Closing for now....anyone who feels the need can start a new topic on the matters which they wish to discuss. This includes restarting this topic itself with the same title.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3987 Joined: |
Not a debate topic.
If one wishes to reply to a message, it should be via more related link(s). Essentially, this topic is an exception to the "no bare links" rule:
5. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references. Some added commentary is OK, but if you want it to be a debate topic, propose a topic to be placed into one of the debate forums (not an individual "Links" topic). Adminnemooseus Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Change to admin ID. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix quote box code (d'oh).Or something like that.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8733 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
The chemistry of element creation from H to U. Star stuff, neutron-star stuff, and, yes, black hole ... kinda stuff.
Thanx, Moose.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation. |
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6259 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
http://cre-ev.dwise1.net/index.html
Now it's more concise and hopefully more readable. I've adopted an approach of telling the story of how the site had come about and how my experience with creationism had grown and had developed my attitudes towards "creation science" and creationists. I also offer some basic facts (http://cre-ev.dwise1.net/index.html#FACTS) and some advice for creationists and non-creationists (http://cre-ev.dwise1.net/index.html#ADVICE). Share and enjoy! Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fixed link per message 136.
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