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Free will vs Omniscience

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Message 11 of 1444 (372631)
12-28-2006 5:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 9 by New Cat's Eye
12-28-2006 5:23 PM

Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
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I believe that god is omnipotent.
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Can God be both Omnipotent and not Omnipotent at the same time in logical contradiction?
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12-29-2006 2:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by New Cat's Eye
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Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
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How about Omnipotent and powerless at the same time?
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12-29-2006 3:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 19 by New Cat's Eye
12-29-2006 3:00 PM

Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
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That's the same question
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Actually it is not since non omnipotence can be any level up to but falling short of omnipotence itself.
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Anyway we need to resolve how a God can engage in the logical impossibilities if he is powerless and how such a state{ Omnipotence and impotence} can been considered achievable even in a world without rules of logic.
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12-29-2006 4:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 21 by New Cat's Eye
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Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
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Why do we have to come up with how its possible?
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Because while the omnipotence side of the equation works at the same time we have powerlessness which negates the ability so it now becomes a case concerning what it means to allow for logical impossibilities.
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Can we indeed allow for logical impossibility while at the same time maintaining a definition of Omnipotence and powerlessness whose states depend upon logical structures in order to define them?
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