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Author Topic:   Who & what are the demons ?
caldron68
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Message 45 of 349 (493945)
01-11-2009 10:07 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by ICANT
01-11-2009 5:25 PM


Re: Re Demons
ICANT writes:
God created the devil and his angels who were evil.
They were created for a specific purpose.
That purpose was to provide man with a choice.
The creation of Satan was not necessary to provide man with a choice between good and evil. As John 10:10 has already pointed out, murder and other evil acts exist without intervention from Satan or his nasty little angels. Free will alone is enough of an excuse for man to do bad things, no devil required. So yes, without Satan there still is evil. It's not just good, good or good.
Given this, we can conclude that Satan was never required to begin with and the fact that you claim that he does exist is evidence that the deck is stacked against man.
It's not enough that man needs to make a choice between belief and non-belief, God is required to inject the devil into the details in order to make things even more difficult.
Cheers,
--Caldron68

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caldron68
Member (Idle past 3863 days)
Posts: 79
From: USA
Joined: 08-26-2007


Message 82 of 349 (497145)
02-01-2009 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by John 10:10
01-28-2009 12:11 PM


Re: added "as recorded in the Bible"
John 10:10 writes:
Read my lips! When you've tried all the meds and therapy known to man and nothing has worked, then consider that maybe something else (demons) could be causing a person not to be in their right mind.
So if demons (Satan) can influence our lives, then the deck really is stacked against us, isn't it John.
I made this same statement in another thread and all three of you (Jaywill, ICANT and you) all chimed in to say that "NO", demons (Satan) cannot directly influence our lives. Are you changing your position on this now?
Cheers,
--Caldron68

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