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Author Topic:   All Knowing God proves problematic
Taz
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Message 37 of 82 (491283)
12-13-2008 1:50 PM


Forget determinism and all that philosophical mumble jumble. If god knows where you're going to end up (hell or heaven) and he's got the power to either do something about it or not make you exist at all if he knows you're going to hell, then god is anything but an all loving god. He created those of us who are hell-bound for the sole purpose of toruring us for an eternity. What the hell kind of narcissistic god is that?
An all knowing god IS problematic! We literally have the worst character that have ever existed and will ever existed in the universe. We literally have a character that has a hard-on for torturing billions and billions of his own children for an eternity.

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Taz
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Message 60 of 82 (491783)
12-21-2008 2:17 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Agobot
12-17-2008 12:31 PM


Re: No evidence in reality
Agobot writes:
The whole universe is only wavefunctions, these are vectors in a linear space.
Composition fallacy.

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Taz
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Message 70 of 82 (733895)
07-22-2014 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Percy
12-11-2008 11:15 AM


There is another alternative to this. But in order to explain, I must invoke godwin's law... just kidding.
Imagine a native from the deep Amazon Forest talking to a man from New York City. The man tells the native that where he comes from people have the power of flight. The native thinks about it and asks the man if people from New York are half-birds. The man from NY says no. The native then says in order for a man to fly he must be half bird to have wings. If people from NY are not half-birds, then they cannot fly.
What I'm trying to get at is you people are playing with logic as if you know everything about everything. Assuming an all-powerful and all-knowing god exists, it surely thinks on a level far above our own that we, at least at the moment, can't comprehend the logic that's involved. For all we know, it makes perfect sense for god to be all-knowing and for people to still have choice.

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