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Author Topic:   All Knowing God proves problematic
ringo
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Message 69 of 82 (733873)
07-22-2014 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Phat
07-21-2014 1:47 PM


Re: a simple hand-wave
Phat writes:
I might add that I believe that God chooses to have no control.
I could end world hunger by snapping my fingers but I choose not to.

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ringo
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Message 73 of 82 (733987)
07-23-2014 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Phat
07-23-2014 5:10 PM


Re: a simple hand-wave
Phat writes:
They will never learn to share if you simply give everyone food.
They wouldn't have to share if everybody had enough. Think manna.
But my point was that anybody can say, "I could do that but I don't wanna." The evidence that you can is that you do.

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ringo
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Message 75 of 82 (734007)
07-24-2014 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Phat
07-24-2014 10:47 AM


Re: a simple hand-wave
Phat writes:
Besides...God owes us nothing, anyway.
Then what good is He?
And my point, again, is that anybody can say he's omnipotent - but if he doesn't demonstrate his abilities, his words are empty.
The same applies to ominscience, as per the topic. I can say I know everything there is to know about geology but unless I can demonstrate that I know something about geology, my claim is empty.
So I'll ask, yet again, why is it that those who claim to commune with God, He Who they claim to be omniscient, don't seem to know anything special? If He isn't communicating something that requires omniscience to know, what good is communion?

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