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NosyNed
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Message 91 of 106 (473480)
06-29-2008 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by sl33w
06-29-2008 8:25 PM


Banks of the Flood
Rebuke: I (Sidney Williams) saw "the banks of the Flood etched into the Himalayas" on NBC hosted by Tom Brokaw (an Atheist).
Fascinating! I suppose when we ask to see photographs and geological information about these "banks" we will find that all the evidence has been suppressed and there is nothing to show?
That in itself is fascinating. Given that less than 20 % of the US population are atheists I'm surprised that they have that much power. It is also rather odd that an "Atheist" (interesting capitalization), namely Brokaw, publicized it on national TV -- rather odd given the world wide conspiracy to suppress it don't you think?
Perhaps you can explain all that?

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sl33w
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Message 92 of 106 (473535)
06-30-2008 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by NosyNed
06-29-2008 11:52 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood
1) Quote: "Atheist" is capitalized?
Windows spell-checker prefers capital, "A."
2) Quote (paraphrased): "Why did an Atheist publish the news and then ban it?"
One Atheist woman writes the news for all local and national news broadcasts. If you watch the Evening News on CBS & NBC, they not only have identical reports but usualy almost in the same order. If you tire of CBS and switch to NBC -- you find the same stories.
3) This "woman" is tagged as an Atheist by her undaunted support of: Evolution, pagan religions, spirituality (which is boasts of humans to have the powers of God, and save themselves from all troubles).
4) "She" is tagged as a "feminist" by glorying over women breaking the barriers, and becoming: Garbage Colectors (Trash men), Soldiers, Sewer Cleaners, etc.
4) The news is controlled nationally by Associated Press and International Press United.
CONCLUSION: Brokaw's news item was from Associated Press. The suppression of the "banks of the flood" was by Tom Brokaw and other Atheist journalists.
COMPARE: Tom Brokaw came on like the proud father of a bouncing baby boy, and announced a man had a mechanical heart. A couple of days later he came on as one who had lost his mother, and announced the man had died. BUT THEN -- hope springs eternal! Brokaw came on as the proud father of a bouncing baby boy, and announced a man had an ape's heart transplated. The next day he came on as one who had lost his mother, and announced the man died. Brokaw reported an elaborate Atheist scheme to infuse human genes in hogs, in order to prepeare them for heart transplants. Brokaw's hopes were soaring high. This was over 10 years ago, and the Atheists have not published the results yet. I guess they can only take so much public humiliation.
sl33w

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NosyNed
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Message 93 of 106 (473538)
06-30-2008 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by sl33w
06-30-2008 1:41 PM


Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
I did ask about geological evidence. Did you forget that.
A pile of unsubstantiated assertions does not a case make. That particular conspiracy delusion would make a good new thread. Why don't you propose one. Or is this just another good example of a "great religious falsehood"?
(PS there is no windows spell checker Word 2003 SP3 is happy with lower case)

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sl33w
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Message 94 of 106 (473578)
06-30-2008 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by NosyNed
06-30-2008 2:01 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
Reply to NoseyNed
1) Quote: "There is no spell-checker Windows 2003."
I had run spell-check on Windows 2003 for several years, and I never failed to find several typos. Are you one of "the flat-earth people"?
You certainly are not hesitant to make ridiculous statements.
2) Quote: "I wanted geographical proof."
If the "banks of the flood in the Himalayas" is not geographical proof, then there is no such thing.
3) And, what then, is your "imagined" proof that there was no flood?
All the major religions in Asia and Europe believed in the Flood. This was in 2492 BC. I have read articles with quotes from many nations believing in the Flood.
4) Not until the German Atheists published their THEORY of Evolution in the 1800s, did anyone doubt this basic fact.
5) Truth is eternal.
6) Johnny-come-lately religions, like Atheism and Evolution are highly suspect, and have not a single fact for proof.
sl33w

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Alasdair
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Message 95 of 106 (473579)
06-30-2008 8:49 PM
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06-30-2008 8:28 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
sl33w, by "geological evidence" Nosy Ned meant a link or reliable source detailing these banks in the Himalayas, rather than just "I saw it on the TV once" so we can discuss it properly.

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Brian
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Message 96 of 106 (473594)
07-01-2008 3:26 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by sl33w
06-29-2008 8:25 PM


Re: Dealing with intentional falsehoods
Rebuke: I (Sidney Williams) saw "the banks of the Flood etched into the Himalayas" on NBC hosted by Tom Brokaw (an Atheist).
Wow, I'm now a believer!
How can I possibly argue with the wealth of evidence that you have posted here? An atheist saw the banks of the Flood etched into the Himalayas, well that's it then, there really must have been a Flood.

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rueh
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Message 97 of 106 (473616)
07-01-2008 10:27 AM
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06-30-2008 1:41 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood
I have looked and looked for any report from Tom Brokaw in regards to the himalayas proving the biblical flood and there is nothing. I think it is time to declare shennanigans. The most I can find is marine life located within the rocks of the himalayas but this is not flood evidence. If any thing this is evidence against a flood.

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Brian
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Message 98 of 106 (473625)
07-01-2008 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by sl33w
06-30-2008 8:28 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
All the major religions in Asia and Europe believed in the Flood.
They also believed in a flat Earth!
Thanks to that Hebrew folk tale book.

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PaulK
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Message 99 of 106 (473632)
07-01-2008 1:23 PM
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07-01-2008 10:27 AM


Re: Banks of the Flood
Real floods do happen in the area, so it might be possible that that is what was referred to, if there was a report. (Given that the only source has a rather dubious connection with reality, I'm not about to say that there was a real report).

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rueh
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Message 100 of 106 (473635)
07-01-2008 1:38 PM
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07-01-2008 1:23 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood
Oh agreed, in fact the majority of stories I have found were in regards to local floods caused by glacial melt. It takes a hell of alot of extrapulation and down right delusion to get that to mean biblical global flood though.

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Granny Magda
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Message 101 of 106 (473636)
07-01-2008 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by sl33w
06-30-2008 8:28 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
Hi sl33w,
There is so much in your post that is wrong that it is hard to know where to start, but I shall restrict myself to wrong statement #4 in your list.
4) Not until the German Atheists published their THEORY of Evolution in the 1800s, did anyone doubt this basic fact. {the flood}
That's just wrong. Tom Paine expressed his doubt of pretty much the entire Biblical text in his work The Age of Reason, just before the nineteenth century turned.
Buffon was very specific about the flood being mythic and he was dead well before the 1800's. I'm sure you'll find plenty of doubters throughout the eighteenth century and that's just in the Christian world.
Previous to the eighteenth century, I'm not sure there is much in the way of written material expressing specific doubts about the flood, but that doesn't mean that there weren't doubters. Given that previous to this, the penalties for heresy ranged from social ostracism to torture and execution, it seems reasonable to assume that many who doubted the Bible had the sense not to mention it.
As for the bit about German atheists, I'm not even gonna start...

Mutate and Survive

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sl33w
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Message 102 of 106 (473664)
07-01-2008 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Alasdair
06-30-2008 8:49 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
Reply to: Alasdair
1) I have spent over $700 to photograph, and program to print in my books, "Photographs of Bible Tampering."
2) Other unprecedented research has stretched me to the limit.
3) You can pay for research in NBCs archives, and locate this news broadcast. Tom only worked Monday through Friday. This was between, possibly, 1995 to 1999. If this period produces no results, go to 2000 to 2002; or, 1993 to 1994. If you do this, then you can publish a best-seller! You will make a mint! The powers of darkness, and the "Great Censorship" (1948-2015), have their limitations. They do not keep me from the truth.
"Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself; not in man who walks to direct his own steps - Jer 10.23.
God directs me to hear wisdom, as in "The Great Debate: 3 = 2 (1992)."
sl33w

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sl33w
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Message 103 of 106 (473667)
07-01-2008 5:24 PM
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07-01-2008 1:38 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
GrannyMagda
Quote: "As for the bit about German atheists, I'm not even gonna start..."
Why not? That is the meat of the debate!
sl33w

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Coragyps
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Message 104 of 106 (473677)
07-01-2008 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by sl33w
06-30-2008 1:41 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood
Brokaw came on as the proud father of a bouncing baby boy, and announced a man had an ape's heart transplated.
You are Making Stuff Up. That was tried in the 70's, IIRC, and then with "Baby Fae" and a baboon heart in the 80's.

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anglagard
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Message 105 of 106 (473686)
07-01-2008 9:36 PM
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07-01-2008 5:13 PM


Re: Banks of the Flood --Evidence?
sl33w writes:
You can pay for research in NBCs archives, and locate this news broadcast. Tom only worked Monday through Friday. This was between, possibly, 1995 to 1999. If this period produces no results, go to 2000 to 2002; or, 1993 to 1994.
Why bother to pay anyone? Anybody can sign up for the Vanderbilt Television News Archive for free.
I searched from 1993 to present using the term Himalaya and came up with nothing. Same using "Brokaw" and "Himalaya" on Google. Either you are right and the great conspiracy of all scientists, journalists, and lay people who saw the broadcast have successfully suppressed this information or you are very confused.
Judging by the content of your posts, the evidence indicates the latter observation is far more likely IMO.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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