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nator
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Message 18 of 40 (40280)
05-15-2003 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Quetzal
05-15-2003 5:38 AM


Another good website is The Skeptic's Dictionary
In particular, read the entries on "Science", and "Creation Science" if you want to understand how creation "science" abuses science to advance it's religious agenda.

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Message 30 of 40 (40401)
05-16-2003 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Peter
05-16-2003 7:14 AM


Actually, "native" people in the rainforest and other places tend to work a lot less, thus have a lot more liesure time, than their western counterparts.

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nator
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Message 37 of 40 (40557)
05-18-2003 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Peter
05-17-2003 6:52 AM


I was surprised to learn that rain forest cultures and others have significantly more liesure time than western cultures, but it makes sense onece you think about it.
Lots of food around...no "stuff" to buy or sell, etc.
Sadly, this is starting to be impossible as subsistence groups are pushed off of the best land.

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Message 38 of 40 (40558)
05-18-2003 9:03 AM
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05-17-2003 6:02 PM


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The trade off is that within complex societies you have much more opportunity to choose what you do with your time, both labor time and leisure time. Hunter/gatherer societies have pretty much one occupation-- clubbing bunnies. Entertainment pretty much equals social life-- utter hell, as far as I am concerned.
Yes, but I'll bet they get an awful lot more nookie than people in Western cultures.

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