Tsunami: Please Explain God's Wrathful Intent

Hi LB. I like your posting style and respect your intelligent input in the forum. It would be cool if we heard more from you. Do you believe devine wrath latter day judgements are at some point in order for the planet?

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In Jehovah God's Universe, time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. It is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

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Yup, it was a very transient canvas for his signature, but isn't it all the more amazing because of it? Allah could have signed his name more permanently in a new sandbar created by the waves, or in a pile of rubble, but instead he signed the actual wave itself AND ensured a satellite/plane took a picture of it at that one and only moment, before it vanished forever.

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Fascinating.

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Yeah, it's a lot like the grilled cheese sandwich with the virgin mary on it.Or the tortilla.Or the face on mars.This message has been edited by schrafinator, 01-11-2005 22:35 AM

Granted, "forbidden" may not be the right word, but the government clearly discourages Christian evangelization by Christian citizens and foreign missionaries are forbidden. For a Christian school to be required to exclusively teach Islam to Islamic students would undermine the purpose of the school and require the school to teach doctrines which they believe to be false. Your school was not required by your government to teach Islam in your school. Big difference. As a moderator, I think you need to remember that there's a point when you need to get back on topic when related topics factor in.

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In Jehovah God's Universe, time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. It is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

Ah, like when you bring up something that you can't support. LOL

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

jar, you are letting Buz pull you way off topic. Stop it right now and get back to dicussing the theme.

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You're right boss. I'll try to do better.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

//calmly pulls the keys to the med cabinet out of her...um...er...hhmmmmnevermind~~~~~~~~{_______{____________}=======}This message has been edited by Asgara, 01-11-2005 22:22 AM

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I come back after a long vacation and buz dosn't even so much as nibble on my reply Oh well.

It's not a matter of perspective. It's a matter of what is, and what isn't, in the Earth's crust.What isn't in the Earth's crust is a mechanism that detects human sin in order to cause more or less earthquakes. Too late.

Abshaloms original questions were: While some of us may disagree whether or not natural disasters in general are a result of a supernatural "Original Sin" and Fall of humanity, I think that we can agree that God did not cause the Tsunamis. The Bible says that judgement begins in the house of God, so...if the Bible Belt is the house of God, I would be praying if I lived in New Madrid, Mo. or some such spot.
Abshalom, do you wish to redirect the topic with further questions at this point?

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Granted, "forbidden" may not be the right word, but the government clearly discourages Christian evangelization by Christian citizens and foreign missionaries are forbidden.

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Ahuh - and look at the Wests dmeonising of Islam, and the conflation of Muslims with terrorists.

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For a Christian school to be required to exclusively teach Islam to Islamic students would undermine the purpose of the school and require the school to teach doctrines which they believe to be false.

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Which would be exactly the same as requiring schools in the US teach Creation as anything other than a crackpot ancient dogma.Remember that chrisitians in your state are arguoing precisely that the model demonstrated here is a good one and should be adopted by christians and the US.

All the christians making arguments to the fallen world are wrong. You see a muslim cleric has determined that, especially in the case of Thailand, it was the Western-serving sex trade that so angered god. Thus this shows gods displeasure for otherwise good people consorting with depraved westerners, and how irresponsible those westerners are, seeing as they have brought gods wrath down on the heads of innocents too.See? Hubrisitc claims to notional right and wrong, menaingless theories about a fictional sky-fairy, can be manipulated to mean anything you opportunistically want it to mean.

Dear Phat:Thank you for your attempt to pull the discussion back on topic. Sorry about my unfortunate spelling of "vengeance" in the OP.No, I do not wish to redirect the discussion at this time. It's apparent that no member is yet ready to claim the tsunami is God's Wrath or Vengeance, and then defend that claim or address questions #2, #3, or #4 at all.If you or another member wish to redirect the discussion in an orderly fashion with specific and related questions, feel free. Otherwise, the Administrator may feel free to close the topic after giving other members a chance to distill anything pertinent out of this mess and transfer it to another thread.If this thread is closed before I get another chance to post in it, thanks to the members who contributed interesting information and thoughtful replies.Regards, AbshalomThis message has been edited by Abshalom, 01-12-2005 09:09 AM

Gilgamesh,It's a strinking coincidence that the picture was taken just as Allah's wrote his name.I hope this is a joke - made me laugh

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