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Author Topic:   If god has a plan, then doesn't that make prayer worthless?
riVeRraT
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Message 14 of 63 (197630)
04-08-2005 7:31 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Nicked
04-07-2005 6:42 PM


Re: Prayer is part of the plan
To me, everyone has a relationship with God.
Some choose to ignore him, thats their relationship.
But usually at some point in your life, you stop and ask God a question, and hope for a response.
We even get answers, yet we choose to ignore them, and justify his non-existance.

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riVeRraT
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Message 15 of 63 (197631)
04-08-2005 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by StormWolfx2x
04-04-2005 1:36 AM


Jesus prayed
Do you have any biblical references for God having a plan?
Jesus prayed everyday, even though he was the son of God, and knew what was going to happen to him. He even told everyone too

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riVeRraT
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Message 25 of 63 (197909)
04-09-2005 12:45 PM
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04-09-2005 3:11 AM


Re: Jesus prayed
Maybe his plan is for us to have free will.
If God exists in a dimension where there is no time, and He can see all that happened and is going to happen, does that mean we have no free will? Or.. We just do not understand how it works.
Also God may have a plan for us, after all he created us, and knows exactly who we are, yet he let's us go to see how we turn out. I see God trying to steer me along the way. Many times he has reached out to me, but I never responded to his call. I believe he creates all of us with a purpose, and you know that purpose deep inside your own heart, so there is no mistaken it. Your purpose might be, just being a good parent, or being someone who can affect many lives for the purpose of the kingdom. It's not about what we do, but who we do it for.
God gives irrevocable gifts, and how we multiply what he has given us is what determines our greatness. We can learn about it through prayer, and communication with God.
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riVeRraT
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Message 26 of 63 (197911)
04-09-2005 12:48 PM
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04-09-2005 3:50 AM


Re: Prayer is part of the plan
Does god plan when people will die?
I think God planned for us to have eternal life.

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riVeRraT
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Message 40 of 63 (198072)
04-10-2005 1:10 PM
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04-10-2005 12:50 PM


Re: Plan failure
We go from glory to glory.

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