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Author Topic:   Biblical atrocities... ????
doctrbill
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Message 44 of 65 (28451)
01-05-2003 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by shilohproject
01-05-2003 1:36 PM


Originally posted by shilohproject:
quote:
Jesus is quoted as having said that He came to "fulfil"(sic, KJV), not to "destroy." A primary difinition of fulfill is "to satisfy." Another is "to bring to an end." (Webster's, 2nd College Edition)
I hope you were quoting someone else here. Have you looked this up for yourself?
These definitions are not primary! -They are not even secondary!!
- They are Tertiary!!! - and Quarternary!!!!
You wouldn't purposely mislead your readers in order to grind that axe - would you?
a. - "fulfil" is not an incorrect spelling, it's an archaic one.
b. - You have quoted what my Thorndike Barnhart advanced dictionary gives as the 3rd and 4th usages of fulfill.
The first usage is - carry out (a promise, prophecy, etc.) cause to happen or take place; accomplish; realize.
The second is - perform or do (a duty); obey (a command, law, etc.); execute; discharge.
Your choice of usage is questionable and calling them primary is just plain wrong, according to my dictionary.
db

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doctrbill
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Message 45 of 65 (28452)
01-05-2003 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by shilohproject
01-05-2003 1:36 PM


quote:
Originally posted by shilohproject:
... the story about the woman caught in adultry: Jesus clearly violates Mosaic law by not supporting the death penalty in this case,
Not necessarily. Questions remain: Is she a free woman or a slave? Was her partner free or slave? Did she consent or was she forced? Did she protest? Furthermore, the case was probably a tricky since it had been brought to entangle him.
At any rate, Jesus had no jurisdiction in the matter, nor did the men who brought him the case. Their courts were subject to Roman law, which was more civilized than the barbaric Assyrian-style code of the Hebrews.
Besides, Jewish courts were not allowed to judge capital crimes.
db

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doctrbill
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Message 54 of 65 (28624)
01-08-2003 1:07 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by shilohproject
01-05-2003 7:01 PM


quote:
Originally posted by shilohproject:
A primary difinition of fulfill is "to satisfy." Another is "to bring to an end." (Webster's, 2nd College Edition)
quote:
Originally posted by doctrbill: These definitions are not primary! -They are not even secondary!! - They are Tertiary!!! - and Quarternary!!!!
quote:
Shilohproject -
I never said that "THE" primary definition was anything; I said "A" primary definition was: to satisfy. ...
The definitions you selected are not primary. Look up the word primary.
quote:
"sic" does not mean that something is in error, rather that a quote which may APPEAR in error, or questionable, has been precisely reproduced. Most people make the mistake of assuming it only applies to error, but your dictionary ought to confirm my usage in this matter.
(sic) means - Spelling Incorrect. That is all it means.
You spend a lot of time in mental gymnastics. Try spending more time with your dictionary.
BTW, despite your protest, you do have an axe to grind. I hope you will come to see what it is.
db

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doctrbill
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Message 61 of 65 (28774)
01-09-2003 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by gene90
01-09-2003 7:27 PM


Wow!
What an argument you two have going! Reminds me how dark my world was before the light of science shined upon me.
Rather than getting involved in the details and rehashing the ignorance and superstition of my past life, I have decided to simply drop in this favorite saying, which I have never heard from anyone but myself:
"If God created Nature, then the Laws of Nature are the Laws of God."
That's about as profound as my theology gets these days.
db
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