Why was a flood needed?

if this All powerful God created the Univerese , the Earth, and made a Man out of Dust. then how come it Needed to flood the Planet to get rid of People and things it didn't like? couldn't it just think it and it would be done??? I really want to know what creationiests think about this Please answer

Put yourself in the shoes of someone who believes in God in this day and age. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who has to believe that God doesn't always do things in the way that would appear to make the most sense, and then ask yourself your question.I think you can more or less anticipate the response of biblical literalists on this. As for the rest of us, why wonder about a fictional story? What use is it to wonder why Jerry Renault doesn't just sell the chocolates? What use is it to wonder why Guinevere and Lancelot can't keep it in their pants for the sake of the kingdom? What use is it to wonder why they always go through the door in slasher movies, despite how often we tell them not to?It's fiction, it doesn't have to make sense.

I just always wonder if a reasonable Explanation can be come up with when I make topics like this..... but I guess not... because creationists never respond to them........... I just like to see if it possible in the face of Being proven wrong to come up with a logical idea.......[This message has been edited by DC85, 07-06-2003]

'if this All powerful God created the Univerese , the Earth, and made a Man out of Dust. then how come it Needed to flood the Planet to get rid of People and things it didn't like? couldn't it just think it and it would be done??? I really want to know what creationiests think about this Please answer 'how come this , how come that ,there are many ways to do things , if i have the power to ride to the shops by bike or car but i choose to walk even though it takes longer does that mean i am not able to take the bus or car?
as for fairytales crash my favourite one is evolution.lol

I'm sure you're intending a gentle rib, here, but I'll let Randy speak for me on this, from an old thread:

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So Fred again says that evolution is a fairy tale. Hmm. What are some things we might find in fairy tales?

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Fairytales often have talking animals like perhaps a talking snake? Does evolution say that a snake could talk? Or is that a claim from Biblical literalists like Fred?

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How about Sons of God mating with daughters of men to produce giants in the earth? Is that a claim of science or is it found in the Bible? Sounds like a fairytale to me.

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How about a person changing into something like stone or maybe a pillar of salt? I don’t remember reading about this happening in a science textbook but you find similar themes in many fairytales.

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How about people living to great ages? Does evolution say that people used to live 6 or even 9 hundred years or is that fairy tale found somewhere else?

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How about someone surviving in the belly of a whale or was it a great fish? I remember seeing something like that in some Disney movie on a fairytale and reading about Jonah in the Bible but I don’t think you’ll find it in a biology text.

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How about someone stopping the sun? I don't think any science text says that such a thing could happen but it could happen in a fairytale.

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How about representatives of all the animals on earth going to one place two by two to get on a boat for a yearlong ride with a 600 year old man and his family and then repopulating the entire earth? That sure sounds like a fairy tale to me.

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So just try to keep straight who is really pushing the fairytales around here.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

'I'm sure you're intending a gentle rib, here, but I'll let Randy speak for me on this, from an old thread:'i was, indeed it is a good theory in theory . but then i can drive,in theory.as for the comments on the bible they dont compare to ,'yes dear your great great granny was an ape". lol, by the way!

What does that statement have to do with evolution?

Mike again you are missing what Evolution is . I mean you act like we are saying. one day an Ape gave Birth to a Human....... I mean really mike thats not what we are saying at all. their is a THIN line between what is human what isn't. Homo Erectus(spelling) was by Most aspects Human. same with Neanderthals(now known not an ancestor but shared a common one) was so close to Human and many other Examples . if you look into it you can see how it happened easy where as the Bible.... has little or no backing. If the Bible Had better Backing it would be science. I mean Science is Based on facts we Know then Ideas come up to Explain it.

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If you look at the story you find that a few factors are at play...
First go to the story of Cain, what was his reaction when God and him had there dialogue after Cain slew Abel? He left the presence of God... now I would imagine that he did not teach about the One True God to his children and there children, but rather he invented clever stories, most likely politheistic or worship of the creation rather than the creator...
Second, Angels of God came down and took wifes of any of the female humans they desired and had offspring with them! Not only is humanity capable of evil but so to are the angels of God.... after all we are created with freewill..
Imagine the capability of all these descendants, they were living to over 900 years... and we have no reference to tell us how long the children of the the nephilim could live... There was only evil coming from the hearts of mankind... could this mean that there was next to no contact between men and God and not by Gods' choice, until he took notice of the heart of Noah, a single man who kept himself seperate from the ways of the world but lived for God... so God chose to save humanity through this man....
My question in all this is, if God did not wipe from this earth all things from that time, would we even exist today? would we allready have destroyed ourselves? genetically would we be recognizable as humans or would we be some mutant race? or maybe we would not be able to have offspring and would have faded away....and yes at any time God could have changed the situation, and so he did, but for what ever reason, he chooses to work with the situation at hand in a way that he understands, after all he is not bound by the laws which bind us, He created them! Just like John the Baptist told the religous leaders when he was baptising in the Jordan river...You brood of vipers, God could raise these stones up as sons if he chose too...

you guys really have to lighten up , it was obviously a joke (lol)

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HI DC,I think that the Flood stories are designed to show YWHW flexing a little divine muscle. There would be no point in just having a single thought that would wipe out everything on Earth that YWHW wanted to, YWHW’s massive ego could not possibly be satisfied by that.YWHW (at least in the minds of the authors) needs to show the world what he can do, he needs to display his awesome power to the creations who have become too big for their boots (or sandals). It is a bit like a cheap two penny gangster novelette, after a ‘hit’ there’s always someone left to tell the rest of the mob who it was that kicked their butt, I mean there’s no point in showing how strong you are if no one knows it was you that done the deed.Exactly the same thing happens with the myth of the ten plagues in Egypt. If YWHW really only wanted the Israelites to be set free and settle in the land of Canaan, then we all know that a god would be able to do this with a single thought. But not the YWHW character, he needs to get all puffed up and full of self-importance, so he shows the non-believers exactly what he can do. Not only does YWHW terrorise the population of Egypt, he hardens the Pharaoh’s heart so the Pharaoh cannot agree to Moses demands, even if he wanted to. So why did YWHW harden Pharaoh’s heart? Well to show off again of course.On a serious note, although the Flood myths in Genesis are not exactly a straight plagiarising of other near eastern myths, they do have general similarities. The most complete and the best-known of the Babylonian sources is of course the Gilgamesh epic. In this story there are some surprising similarities with the Bible accounts:Divine causality has decided on the flood.
Only one man and his family are to be saved.
A god gives the revelation that there will be a flood.
A god dictates the construction of the ark.
A god dictates that animals are to be brought aboard the ark.
Birds establish the ending of the flood.
The ark comes to rest on a mountain.
A sacrifice that is pleasing to god finishes off the story.Some people might take these similarities as proof that there was indeed a flood, but if that were the case, why cant the Bible accounts be taken as proof of the validity of the Gilgamesh Epic? The Gilgamesh Epic is after all, far older than any Bible text we have.I actually really enjoy teaching the Genesis Flood Story in school, the kids love it and they really like colouring in the pictures of the ark and it’s animals. At least it keeps an ancient folk tale alive, it cant be all bad.Brian.

'he needs to get all puffed up and full of self-importance, so he shows the non-believers exactly what he can do. Not only does YWHW terrorise the population of Egypt, he hardens the Pharaoh’s heart so the Pharaoh cannot agree to Moses demands, even if he wanted to. So why did YWHW harden Pharaoh’s heart? Well to show off again of course.'RUBISH. he was showing pharaoh that all his gods were false and not to mess with the real deal.
Yahweh - I AM'On a serious note, although the Flood myths in Genesis 'since it claims to be true and no one has ever proved otherwise do not refer to it as myth!'At least it keeps an ancient folk tale alive, it cant be all bad.'nice try but i'm afraid i still take it as truth.

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since it claims to be true and no one has ever proved otherwise do not refer to it as myth!

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'At least it keeps an ancient folk tale alive, it cant be all bad.'

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nice try but i'm afraid i still take it as truth.

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The worldwide is a myth. It has been falsified by geology, palenotology, biogeography, biodiversity and archeology to name a few. You are about 170 years out of date.Randy
Added in edit, I grew up on farm and have been driving cars, trucks, tractors since I was 10 years old and that was nearly 60 years ago so your joking fraudulant quote was no more valid than the other nonsense you have been posting.[This message has been edited by Randy, 07-09-2003][This message has been edited by Randy, 07-09-2003]