Degrees of Faith?

These questions can be taken back to the original thread, as they are off topic here ... The problem is (1) publishing the result in a peer reviewed journal and (b) reproducing the result (are you sure only one religion is true?) ... I'd need a link, I normally do not post on that side of the forum. Thanks. I don't feel the case for science needs to be overstated and that there is some tentativeness in every science, or in all knowledge for that matter. We do end up taking some basic concepts on faith in order to build the whole picture of knowledge, ruling out those that are shown to be false as we encounter them. This later part is crucial, as to ignore the contradicted concepts is not faith or knowledge but delusion.Enjoy.ps - love the duck. My mom (psychiatrist) once had a sweatshirt with a duck with backward feet, and under it said "mallard-justed")Edited by RAZD, : ps

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

RAZD, I love everybody, and from what I have read of the lake of fire I would not want to see anyone go there for a minute must less eternity.But in all fairness to your question I have to say I believe there is only one way to heaven.Let me put it this way: If there is a God, and He inspired the Bible, there is only one way. Jesus said: "I am the way the truth and the life."You read much on here about what Christanity is and is not.
You read hardly anything that relates to what it is to be a born again child of the king.To be born again you must believe God. That He is who He says He is and that He sent His Son to pay the sin debt for mankind. You have to believe He will do what He said He would do. Which is give you eternal life if you trust Him to do so. If you desire I could give you the scripture references. I see you found it. And yes I am very old old old Universe. I believe you cannot find a number large enough to tell me how old the Universe is.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

When it comes to religious dogma of any faith I tend to be atheistic, when it comes to other religion beliefs (original experiences, not dogma) I tend to be agnostic (I've had my own).So when it comes to dogmatic assertions like you've made I am atheistic in response, but on the concept of heaven I'll remain agnostic.Somehow the idea of an exclusive mindless fan club is not my idea of heaven, and this leads to the conclusion that there must be as many paths as there are people: each must find their own way. Some may take short-cuts, and some may need to try again (ie hell=reincarnation in some kind of buddhist christianity). All buddhists and hindus believe they have been born again. No big deal eh?Enjoy.Edited by RAZD, : bornagain

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Standard issue in this hospital. Or do you mean the strange skin rash I've developed ...

I find that spending ones life ensuring one gets into a mythical heaven is such a waste of the one and only life we are aware of.
Believe me, I want to believe in heaven too. I have wanted to since my father was tragically killed many years ago when I was a child.
However, the truth is he died and he didn't come back. He was our family's strength and without him, we fell to pieces. We suffer from it still.
The thoughts or beliefs that he was in heaven did nothing to help a young widow with five young children. It did nothing to help my broken heart. My mother believed in god and she believed her husband's death was man's doing, not god's. I believe she was right and we are still doing it. We have to get real and look at what we are creating here and now.
The faiths and beliefs in God, heaven, hell, angels, spirits etc. could all very well be true but how does that help us create a better life now? We can only create in awareness (through consciousness) if we are to take control of our one life and our one world and our one human race.
Purely from my personal experiences I do believe in a creator but not a creator with rules and control over me. On the contrary, I believe the creator is the creative force (or energy) that is the essence of everything. I believe this force is the force of change and by god, you can't stop that, can you? Bless us all. Enjoy the ride.

The strange rash that was on your chest looked like an s.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I believe God is the essence of everything. Everything that exists in the Universe has its being in, by, and through Him.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I did not come to my conclusion through the bible or any other book. I reached this conclusion through my own personal experiences and do not need it verified, although I do think the act's quotation is spot on.
For me the emphasis lies with the force rather than the essence. I do not percieve this force as having a gendre as essence suggests, but a force that is all powerful and cannot be anything other than itself. Edited by dameeva, : No reason given.

Hi SALVADEJAH,Amen = Aemonáh = Emunah -- Hebrew -- = Fidelitate -- Ancient Roman -- = Fidelitá -- Modern Roman-Italian -- = Fidelity = constant permanence on remaining firm and true with regard to giving the right of precendency to the word from an only One.-1st. - How can one make the distinction between 'do you believe? All is possible to him that believes' -- i.e. from the adulterated master copy that made famous the man's name Iesus Kristus -- which is not YHWH's name --,and 'will you keep emunah to YHWH? All is possible to him/her that keeps emunah - [total right of precedency being given to YHWH]' -- Id Est a paraphrase from one's ascertaining on the ultimate compilation/proof founded into the Rock of Israel -- The Testimony of the Law and of the Prophets --,-In order for one to ascertain the above distinction,
he/she has the option of investigating--inquiring this one first:-2nd. - What is it that is being questioned -- asked or interrogated -- in the words 'do you believe', which is from the adulterated master copy that had been showing up with the man's name Iesus Kristus??-If you remove the word 'you' from the question 'will you keep emunah to YHWH?' - the question will still hold the significance and meaning of-'Will --the emunah to YHWH-- be kept?'-But if you remove the word 'you' from the version 'do you believe' -- which was originated from the throne of the dragon,then view it --,-what is being questioned -- asked or interrogated -- is the following demonic question:-'Is [YHWH's Kadhish -- Holiness] to be credited as true?'-If considered that the word 'believe' spiritually means:-'to have a final say with regard to worthiness of Holiness'-and: 'to credit as true the things in the time that total sureness is not attributed to them',-then, even if you keep the word 'you'-- the version from the adulterated master copy does spiritually still sound demonic:-'What is your final say --or decision-- about believing in that?' - - 'will you credit -- YHWH's Kadhish -- Holiness -- as something true?'-While responding with a question,Is -- YHWH's Kadhish -- Holiness -- to be put in check, or questioned, in the first place??-Is there not a thin red line that separates Kadhish -- Holiness -- from being questioned?-Peace
and Emunah