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Author | Topic: How can you identify the word of God without critical assessment of God? | |||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That must be answered by those other than me. I can explain my beliefs and have done so often here and they are really off topic for this thread.
The topic is "How can you identify the word of God without critical assessment of God?" and I believe I outlined how that can be done in Message 17 and the alternate procedure in Message 15 which you deemed off topic. Edited by jar, : No reason given. Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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sinequanon Member (Idle past 2864 days) Posts: 331 Joined: |
No explanation required. A yes or no answer is fine. I would not deem this one word off topic.
In finding the word of God, did you critically assess God?
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Constantly.
Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3457 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
quote:If Lumpy hands me a book and says it was written by George Washington, investigation into whether that book was written by George Washington has no reflection on George Washington himself. If I determine that that book is not written by George Washington, it doesn't reflect badly on George Washington, but on the person who presented it as written by George Washington. IMO, people misunderstand who and what is being critically assessed. The person presenting the book is being assessed and the book itself. To not question what God said (which God hasn't said that we can't) one has to know that what is written is what God said. Determining whether the book carries God's words has nothing to do with critically assessing God. So yes you can critically assess a book to determine its origin without finding fault with God. Better to follow the correct words, than to follow the wrong ones and look really stupid in God's eyes.
quote:We're human, it's the only understanding we have. What other option is there? Again, critically assessing them has nothing to do with critically assessing God. They are just as fallible as any other human. quote:The cannons were derived from religious leaders assessing the writings and deciding what represented their beliefs in God. It has nothing to do with assessing or doubting God. Religious leaders decide what is or is not a religious work for their religion. Individuals just have to choose which religious leader or religion they trust to teach them truthfully about God. We aren't critically assessing God, we are assessing other humans and what they present as being from God.
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sinequanon Member (Idle past 2864 days) Posts: 331 Joined: |
We aren't critically assessing God, we are assessing other humans and what they present as being from God. I hear what you say, but I do not believe it is necessarily a case of either/or. It could be both. The OP happens to be asking about God. Are you implying that, if you are satisfied with the human presenting the word of God, then you have identified the word of God? Or are you implying that you cannot identify the word of God?
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3457 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
How could it be both? How is one assessing God when authenticating a claim? Doubting that the words came from God is not the same as doubting God.
quote:For some that is all that is needed. quote:No Please explain why you feel God is being critically assessed when humans authenticate a claim?
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sinequanon Member (Idle past 2864 days) Posts: 331 Joined: |
How could it be both? How is one assessing God when authenticating a claim? Doubting that the words came from God is not the same as doubting God. 'It' is possible to BOTH assess God AND authenticate a claim. So, the fact that you are authenticating a claim does not imply you are not assessing God. There is no assumption of any implication in the OP. It just asks the question.
For some that is all that is needed. And for you, personally? (Interestingly, you have done what nwr did in Message 23 and jar did in Message 24. I am starting to observe a certain pattern of coyness )
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3457 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
quote:It also doesn't imply that one is, so again, what is the issue? quote:This is a debate forum, not a personal encounter group. We debate the position not the person. Please explain why you feel God is being critically assessed when humans authenticate a claim?
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sinequanon Member (Idle past 2864 days) Posts: 331 Joined: |
I would like to hear from other people who "follow God's word".
So far, only jar has explained how he thinks it is possible without critical assessment of God. He doesn't use this method himself. He is constantly critically assessing God.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So far, only jar has explained how he thinks it is possible without critical assessment of God. No, jar posted a method that can be used. There is no question of whether or not it is possible, the method I posted can be used. Is there any point or substance to this thread? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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sinequanon Member (Idle past 2864 days) Posts: 331 Joined: |
Is there any point or substance to this thread? Yes. I suspect people who respond will fall into two camps. i) Those who critically assess God.ii) Those who don't want to say. It would be interesting to find someone who admits to have iii) Found the word of God without critically assessing God. (It could be they are all represented by ii))
No, jar posted a method that can be used. There is no question of whether or not it is possible, the method I posted can be used. jar posted a method that can be used that may or may not be possible.
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