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blitz77 Inactive Member |
quote: Random mutations + natural selection then. However, abiogenesis could certainly be classified as random chance. --Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens.
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by blitz77:
Please give me some inconsistencies in the manuscripts Christianity has. Ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? All one has to do is compare these scrolls (That is if one can get full access to them) with the current bible and you will see that there are many inconsistencies. With only a few copies of Greek Mythology, its easy for it to be consistent. But with thousands of copies, translated into many languages, at different times.... So, you are admitting that the bible isn't the literal and inerrant word of your god since it is so filled with inconsistencies? "Quality is more important than quantity."
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6475 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by blitz77:
[B] quote: Well, hell is a helluva lot worse than Dante's Inferno, let me tell you that. >So you have direct, reproducible evidence of hell...let's see it so we can evaluate the evidence you claim to have...this should be good
quote: We could say exactly the same thing about evolutionists. They ignore all the evidence which doesn't match their "theory". --An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind >Keeping your eyes closed and muttering the same creationist mythology mantra makes you blind...how about actually LEARNING something about science and the scientific method and actually READING a scientific description about evolution before spouting off nonesense.
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blitz77 Inactive Member |
quote: Ever heard of NDEs?
quote: I took a look. Could you explain the difference to me in your own words?
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by blitz77:
Random mutations + natural selection then. However, abiogenesis could certainly be classified as random chance. Define random chance in this context. Abiogenesis and evolution are two different concepts.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6475 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Define random mutationDefine natural selection Know what the neutral theory is? How about genetic drift? Your above statement does not suggest you know anything about the theory of evolution. However, abiogenesis could certainly be classified as random chance. So could winning the LOTTO...what's you point? Glad to see your admission of the large number of inconsistencies in the bible
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blitz77 Inactive Member |
quote: I read the statistics on it. Less than 1 word in a thousand is different, but synonymous. Give me a specific inconsistency between the manuscripts. Most of the other differences could be accounted for by slight changes in names and places.
quote: No, I am not. I'm just saying that with all those copies and languages, it is still consistent. [This message has been edited by blitz77, 09-09-2002]
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blitz77 Inactive Member |
quote: Where did I admit that?
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by blitz77:
Ever heard of NDEs? No, is it something like UFOs? I took a look. Could you explain the difference to me in your own words? Religion: "God did it and that is good enough for me..." Science: "Let's see what actually happened and maybe learn something new and different..."
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by blitz77:
I read the statistics on it. Less than 1 word in a thousand is different, but synonymous. Give me a specific inconsistency between the manuscripts. Stats are like whores, they will open their legs for anyone. Plus good access to the scrolls is restricted. You are going by what they want you to know is in them. No, I am not. I'm just saying that with all those copies and languages, it is still consistent. Why don't you look up the books which have been removed because they didn't agree with what the Church wanted them to say. How do you define consistent, just the base message about god or all of the other stuff in it? With Greek Mythology all of it is consistent and more complete in also giving much details. What do we know of most of Christ's life from 12 to around 30? Almost nothing as if he were made out of whole clothe. [This message has been edited by nos482, 09-09-2002]
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blitz77 Inactive Member |
Nope... NDEs are near death experiences. According to statistics, 33% of people near death experience an NDE, but quickly forget about it in a few days/weeks.
quote: Mmmm, really? Then why would we need scientific institutions such as ICR?
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blitz77 Inactive Member |
quote: Science is based on statistics to check reliability of an experiment.
quote: Which books?
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blitz77 Inactive Member |
quote: The difference between Greek Mythology and the account of Christ's life is the difference between legend and history. Go to Israel, and even the Jews there will admit that Jesus existed. And as for Greek mythology, archaelogists and historians think there might be at least a grain of truth in them. David Rohl equates Dionysis with Noah (both invented wine), and many other correlations between other cultural heroes and myths with the bible, eg Osiris with Noah (Osiris was tossed into a compartment/box/ark and cast into the water), as well as many other similarities. Take a read of David Rohl's 'Legend: The Genesis of Civilization'. David Rohl is the world famous Egyptologist (and no, he isn't a Christian).
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by blitz77:
Nope... NDEs are near death experiences. According to statistics, 33% of people near death experience an NDE, but quickly forget about it in a few days/weeks. Pilots have the exact same experience when they pull too many Gees.It's the brain's way of coping with a loss of blood flow to it. http://leda.lycaeum.org/..._Near-Death_Experience.9260.shtml http://leda.lycaeum.org/..._Near_Death_Experience.9264.shtml Page not found - Dr Susan Blackmore Mmmm, really? Then why would we need scientific institutions such as ICR? HAHAHAHAHA! The ICR a scientific institution? Please, don't insult my intelligence. That is like saying that astrology is a valid science as well... Or that the National Enquirer is legitimate journalism.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6475 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: The answer is WE DON'T need ICR for anything...except laughs.
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