Is Something Wrong with Mother Earth?

Both. I have led organizations of over 300 employees, but yet I was still subject to my own boss. I held my people accountable to meet certain performance standards, while my boss held me accountable as well. We are all accountable to someone (whether you believe it or not).

Crash,
Dude, you must be one of those journalists who works for the liberal media. Your responses to me are nothing more than taking sound bites out of context, then spinning them out of control to give yourself something to chew on. I have not claimed to possess absolute knowledge about any subject. Can anyone?
If I state, "cigar smoke causes cancer", do I need to have been the scientist in charge of multiple (and extensive) lab tests that determined this? Or if a jury finds a defendant guilty of a crime, do they need to be eye witnesses to the crime in order for their judgment to be valid? Or can we "believe" the defendant is guilty based on eye witness testimony and physical evidence (etc)?
If your doctor insists you have a serious illness and prescribes medicine, do you believe him (faith) or do you go out and get your own medical degree before you decide to take the life-saving medicine? (comment on that and we'll need a new thread)

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Says you, but you can scarcely have made an exhaustive survey, now can you?

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No, says not me. Says God almighty, who DOES happen to have absolute knowledge. How do I know that? I can explain in depth, but that would be off topic (we can start a new thread/topic, but your apparent hostility toward God might make it a waste of time).

Juhrahnimo Do you wish to tall me why it must be god? And what is the difficulty with the universe being its own cause?

God, I wish.But no. I'm just someone who's smart enough to see your bullshit for what it is, and rude enough to actually call you on it. Leaving aside the question of your ability to talk to God, isn't it His behavior that's under scrutiny? After all a wife beater might very well justify his behavior with "she deserved it", but why should we believe him? God lets/causes bad things to happen to good people; why should we believe him when he says that the bad things that he does to us are because we deserve it?

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I have led organizations of over 300 employees, but yet I was still subject to my own boss.

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We can gather that you didn't own your own business.

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I held my people accountable to meet certain performance standards, while my boss held me accountable as well. We are all accountable to someone (whether you believe it or not).

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Meaning what, there's a god? Because you fall someone along the middle of the chain of command at work? How do you figure?

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Keep America Safe AND Free!

Which commandments specifically?The Ten?
What Jesus told the rich man?
The golden rule?

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A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

Partly, but not mostly. The effects of global warming/global climate change have only been modeled - and the models don't always agree. However, at the minimum, all agree that the risk of severe disruption in global weather patterns is very high. These include things like flooding in desert regions, drought in agricultural regions, increased likelihood of severe storms, etc. Not to mention the disruption in the current patterns that give us our weather today (like the Gulf Stream disappearing/moving southward because of massive influx of cold water from melting ice caps, etc). The more pertinent aspect of immediate weather problems (like the severe storms hitting the US) relates to ENSO ("El Nino-Southern Oscillation") effects. We seem to be entering another - and perhaps extreme - cycle now.Most of what I was thinking about related to human activity: desertification caused by unsustainable land use patterns leading to famine (c.f., the Saharan rim); deforestation leading to things like increased landslide activity (and concurrent loss of human life; Google Posoltega "Hurricane Mitch" Nicaragua for a stark example), increases in pest species (like mosquitos and disease-carrying flies), and release of EIDs ("emerging infectious diseases") from hitherto unknown/untapped disease reservoirs; famine through distruction of "wild" type crop plants leading to reduced resistence in domesticated crops (with no reserve of genetic variability to draw from) and overuse of pesticides/herbicides leading to ever-more resistent strains of pathogens/phytophagous insects; and finally homogenization of the biosphere caused by bioinvasion impelled by globalization. All of these things combined leading to horrendous wars and mass deaths over competition for dwindling resources and living space.IOW, the fundies are right: we quite likely are heading for something resembling "End Times" (if you define that to mean "the end result being a world unrecognizable by today's standards"). However, there's nothing supernatural about it. >99% can be dropped directly at the doorstep of human activity. The good news is, we CAN do something to stop/mitigate the problems. Some things we're already working on (preservation of wild strains, identification of new food crop types, etc), as well as attempting to limit some of the worst pollution-caused destruction. However, it's far from certain we'll be willing to do enough to stave off our own destruction. Great world we're leaving our children, isn't it?And I'm not even a radical environmentalist! You should hear some of the doomsday scenarios put forward by the enviro-wackos!

Great post, thank you. But we tend to read too much into it, then fall off the other side of the horse. Ezekiel gave us a supposed "simple" solution to our problem, BUT we couldn't do it. If mankind would have been able to do what Ezekiel 18 called for, then the sacrifice of Jesus would have been unnecessary. Instead, God saw we couldn't turn from our sins, so he sent his son to make us new creatures (a mystery indeed).

You obivously didn't get the question that I was answering from Mark Knight.

So, the mean ol' judge who sentenced a murdered to death is at fault for the murderer's death? Ok, forget capital punishment; let's say the judge sentences the murderer to life in prison. Same question; is the judge mean? Or just? Without accountability, who would would basic laws?

That's a poor example - those laws are developed via debate and consent - not in the same way that your christian godhead murders people for showing their breasts.

Charles,
You can't seem to let go of that sound bite, can you? So, since you can't let it go, I'll engage you on it: Check out a recent article from MSNBC at WHOA!!!Again, it's the rebelion against God that is the subject, not breasts. Every rebellion starts somewhere. War doesn't start with a fired bullet. Osama didn't start his campaign against us by crashing planes into buildings. But the article above describes a scenario that begins quite simply, then proceeds toward fornication, adultery, revelry, drunkeness, divorce, broken homes, spread of disease, etc. etc. etc! VERY short term fun, followed by long misery. If you can't see that, then you've lived a sheltered life.My original post didn't say God murders people for showing their breasts, and I'm convinced you're aware of that (but yet you posted it anyway). You've just chosen to use a "liberal media" method of trashing someone who doesn't support your view (namely, using sound bites, twisting words/concepts, and ignoring the spirit of the message).

Accountability of who, though? Certainly I believe that crimes should be punished; but God punishes people, apparently, who have done nothing wrong - who could have done nothing wrong, like infants and children.It's all very well and good for you to say "if something bad happens to someone, it's always because of something they did", but can't you see that that's just blaming-the-victim ad-hoc-ery?A judge that sentences a murderer to punishment is just. But a judge that sentences everyone to death, whether or not they've committed a crime, is a murder himself.

...and that's where the concept of evolution comes into play. If we leave an intelligent creator out of the picture, then there are no laws; we just make our own. But if there is a God and we rebel against him, even join up with the enemy, then we cause problems for those around us. But God has given us a way out; Jesus.
We're way off topic, and I'm probably about to get chewed out again for it. Can we can continue this over coffee at the Coffee House?

Absolutely, but only if you're going to actually address my points. You did not do so in this post.