former speed of light

But it's a little tricky to account for parallax and aberration of starlight if you're geocentric. All stars have to make a little ellipse every year around an empty spot in space in that model. And it has to be the size of the Sun's "path" around the Earth, but can be anywhere from a near-circle to a back-and-forth straight line.

Oh yeah. It's a crazy way of looking at it, no question, but that's not really the point.

Thats what it appears to be from our limited 3 dimensional perspective.
What if the whole box that we live in is actually spinning around the earth?I have been into ameteur astronomy for 12 years now, and I laughed extremely hard at the mere suggestion of this. But given further thought, it is entirely possible. I have no evidence for this, but it is possible.

Not the thought speed that spirits can travel at. That is instantaneous. Even if we do take a few minutes to decide who we wanted to visit next.
Then again, if they prefer, they can ride a chariot across the sky, or space at pretty well any speed they would like.

Oh, I see! That's how Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy all make their rounds so quickly! Thank you for clearing that up.

Not to discourage your search for fresh ideas, but I think you might get somewhere quicker with the study of change in zero point energy and its effects on light speed and atomic behavior as evidenced by red-shift quantization.see: http://www.ldolphin.org/staticu.html for a summary of the investigation.

And don't forget that red-shift quantization was an artifact of insufficient data. See Message 33.

You forgot Elijah. You're welcome. Excuse me if I cut this a little short, my coffee seems to have a little speck in it, and there is much concern a universe as big as ours is going to come sailing out of it. Least I could do, is move back from the computer in case it blows!

Thanks for the link, it seems interesting. If I found some good reason to think that the merged S and P world was not possible, that angle would certainly be, so far, my plan B. Questioning the physical science we have, and looking for the error there. As it is, even if there is no big error, I have an explanation on how their dates are dead wrong. I also mentioned to someone, how there would be implications of this seperation on our earth, as well. It very well may have may have had an aging effect, that would be totally misread, if we left out the big picture. Well, here's a very crazy thought..(this one so far out even I don't really believe it. ha) And the thought is, if somehow the seperation came after life was already created, I wonder if this could have caused a lot of certain kinds of creatures to die, and get fossilized fairly quickly? Creatures, like, say, for example in the cambrian layer!

Actually, this does not refute the evidence for small-scale yet statistically significant periodicity in red-shifts which have been found in galaxies out to 850 million light years.The 2dF QSO relied on redshifts gathered from quasi steller objects at varying great distances and is not sufficiently accurate to pick up the small scale quantization found by Tifft, Cocke, Gutherie, and Napier.The 2dF QSO findings do not refute the quantized redshift data. So this is why I am telling him that pursuing this might actually lead somewhere.

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The 2dF QSO findings do not refute the quantized redshift data. So this is why I am telling him that pursuing this might actually lead somewhere.

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I don't remember you pointing out how a split of the 2 parts of God's creation, that was needed for a time, is somehow doomed to lead nowhere?

One of the more interesting phenomenoms of the bible, is the prophecies therein, God knows the future, so "if" God knows the future, then light years are meaningless, too God, for wherever you go, God is there, etc...The basis of a prophet in the old testament was their prophecies were inerrant, cause they came from God, and not from man. The Prophecies in the old testament, the book of revelations, shows even though this earth is racing through the universe, God is already there, because he knows the future, that is quite interesting that God is beyond time, be it as it be, he created the heavens and the earth, and he will make all things new, cause he is able, and has given us his Word, which is a comfort, those promises, that he is God and that he keeps his Word, like his covenant with Israel, that they are now rooted in the Promised Lands, is because God is keeping his Word, to Sarah, to Issac's and not Ishmael seed belongs the Promised Lands, and it matters not what the whole world or what Muslims believe, because were talking about a God thats already knows all, what an awesome God, etc...P.S. Prophecies is one of the evidences of God, cause his prophecies never fail, cause God knows the future. God made provisions so you can be a part of his future, but this means to be about being an overcomer, and this comes through Christ, etc...

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Prophecies is one of the evidences of God

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Absolutely. The betrayal price, life, virgin birth, town of birth, manner of death, even the year of death in Daniel, all laid out hundreds, even thousands of years in advance. Every major kingdom to come, sometimes by name all foretold in the bible. All with 100% accuracy, unlike psycics. Even the next world government under the 'antichrist' all precisely foretold. Heaven, it's dimensions, materials, inhabitants, trees, etc, all mapped out. Even, I must add here, the merging of the physical with the spiritual, and the heavens departing as a scroll, to reveal the timeless eternal, magnificant new heaven, and earth!!

Well take Prophesies over to the Prophesies fullfilled thread. Everyone has been waiting for even one example of one over there.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

arkathon LOL. Buddy, you have it bassackwards. You are the one making the claim{spiritual speed of light} and the onus [s]is on you[/i] to present the evidence. You make statement after statement with no measurement of any actual phenomena so it would seem the only place this idea of yours has merit is in your active imagination.I have a house in Banff made of invisible immaterial concrete blocks and timber and it hovers on the wings of eagle spirits. If this is my contention is it proper of me to ask you to disprove it? If so, then please feel free to do so.