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ringo
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Message 451 of 526 (904965)
01-13-2023 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 449 by Phat
01-12-2023 5:06 PM


Re: Corporations behaving badly
Phat writes:
... their sensationalist claims themselves generated a backlash from people (such as many liberals) who are sensitive to the issue and defensive, largely due to the fact that they are anti-authoritarian and pro BLM and other marginalized minority causes.
So now liberals are ANTI-authoritarian? When did you change your mind?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Theodoric
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Message 452 of 526 (904966)
01-13-2023 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 451 by ringo
01-13-2023 11:28 AM


Re: Corporations behaving badly
And Phat claims he is not a racist.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 453 of 526 (904971)
01-13-2023 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 452 by Theodoric
01-13-2023 11:34 AM


Conversations behind Gods back: Rant#1
Pot, Meet Kettle.
Theodoric, in another thread writes:
Maybe you should learn what racism means. I can not be racist against conservative white males. I will let you figure out why.
I answered you and you failed to respond. Maybe you should look in the mirror before getting on my case about not answering your replies. And you are a closet racist against white conservative males, as are many Democrats. In fact, you guys wont be happy until the global white "privileged" pay back every dime of the bill that you claim they owe. Meanwhile, you vote for an old codger of a president who is as dishonest as Trump (except that he has a friendly and biased media on his side, unlike Trump) and this old cuss has cabinets full of all of the marginalized people who were appointed not because of their skill but because of their oppressed identities, hence a large proportion of LGTBQ appointees. You champion a minority woman who is an activist against conservatism and white privilege, yet deride me for daring to put Candice Owens up against your beloved Alexandra Ocasio Cortez. (There is no way that I could "wipe the floor" with Ms.Cortez...I would have a disadvantage from the start simply by being an aging white male with a conservative bent. ) I will tell you though that Candace Owens is more than a match for Ms.Cortez politically and intellectually.
Oh by the way, your rock is over there...it awaits

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003
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Message 454 of 526 (904972)
01-13-2023 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 451 by ringo
01-13-2023 11:28 AM


Re: Corporations behaving badly
Authoritarianism cuts both ways. The difference is that Liberals claim that they are acting in the best interests of *all* of the people regardless of the peoples consent. They deny being authoritarian.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Theodoric
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Message 455 of 526 (904974)
01-13-2023 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 453 by Phat
01-13-2023 2:20 PM


Phat continues racist screeds
This Candace Owens?
Candace Owens Defends Andrew Tate as Fresh Allegations Emerge
You do realize her father-in-law is in the UK House of Lords Also, her husband seems to be running Parler into the ground or trying to make a quick buck.
Parler owner laid off 75% of staff and has only 20 employees left, report says | Ars Technica
Oh yeah she is a grifting scam artist.
Candace Owens Insists Freedom Phone Not a Scam After Waiting Months for Device
Every Receipt Proving Candace Owens Is A Con Artist
I am a white male.
One cannot be racist against white, conservative males. That would not be racism.
Learn what words mean.
Here is your response to that comment I made in the other thread. Weird how you didn't post that to show the peanut gallery.
Phat writes:
No, you made the charge. Explain to *me* why I am racist against God knows who and you are innocent of racism against me. I will be awaiting your claim of identity politics or some other term that I need to understand. At worst I might be guilty of sexism.
As Ringo responded in Message 244 there was no need for me to pile on. I also felt it was not worth a response. Your latest screed reinforces your racism.
She is Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. She is a highly educated and accomplished woman, no matter how misogynist and racist you want to be.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003
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Message 456 of 526 (904978)
01-13-2023 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 455 by Theodoric
01-13-2023 2:49 PM


Re: Phat continues racist screeds
She is Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. She is a highly educated and accomplished woman, no matter how misogynist and racist you want to be.
OK, fine. I suspect that you like her not because of her education so much as you agree with her politics. I notice you made no attempt to dig up any dirt on her, as you were all too eager to do with Candace Owens.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Theodoric
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From: Northwest, WI, USA
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Message 457 of 526 (904981)
01-13-2023 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 456 by Phat
01-13-2023 3:05 PM


Re: Phat continues racist screeds
Actually, I disagree with some of her politics. I agree with some also. I admire her because of who she is not what she is. I know that is hard for you to understand.
Why would I dig up dirt on her? You have dirt present it. Are you denying she is highly educated and accomplished?
Classic Phat. Not actually addressing the post.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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DrJones*
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Message 458 of 526 (904996)
01-13-2023 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 453 by Phat
01-13-2023 2:20 PM


Re: Conversations behind Gods back: Rant#1
There is no way that I could "wipe the floor" with Ms.Cortez...I would have a disadvantage from the start simply by being an aging white male with a conservative bent.
well that and the fact that you're a fucking idiot

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003
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Message 459 of 526 (905058)
01-15-2023 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 458 by DrJones*
01-13-2023 7:36 PM


Re: Conversations behind Gods back: Rant#1
hmmmm.
Wiki writes:
n idiot, in modern use, is a stupid or foolish person.
'Idiot' was formerly a technical term in legal and psychiatric contexts for some kinds of profound intellectual disability where the mental age is two years or less, and the person cannot guard themself against common physical dangers. The term was gradually replaced by 'profound mental retardation', which has since been replaced by other terms.[1] Along with terms like moron, imbecile, retard and cretin, its use to describe people with mental disabilities is considered archaic and offensive.[2] Moral idiocy refers to a moral disability.
Now....Dr.Jones* (Not an actual Doctor) I don't believe that we have ever formally had a discussion. Tell us a bit about yourself. Are you retired? Working? What was(is) your line of work? Inquiring idiots want to know!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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ringo
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Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 460 of 526 (905062)
01-16-2023 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 454 by Phat
01-13-2023 2:23 PM


Re: Corporations behaving badly
Phat writes:
Authoritarianism cuts both ways.
You have been saying for ages that liberals are authoritarian and now you say it is a FACT that they are NOT authoritarian Message 449. It doesn't matter how many ways authoritarianism cuts, you're contradicting yourself.
Phat writes:
The difference is that Liberals claim that they are acting in the best interests of *all* of the people regardless of the peoples consent.
The people give their consent by voting the liberals in. If they didn't have the people's consent, they couldn't DO anything in ANYBODY's best interest.
Phat writes:
They deny being authoritarian.
Because they're NOT authoritarian. Se above.
For God's sake, learn what authoritarian means.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 461 of 526 (905063)
01-16-2023 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 456 by Phat
01-13-2023 3:05 PM


Re: Phat continues racist screeds
Phat writes:
I notice you made no attempt to dig up any dirt on her...
Where did YOU dig up the claim that she is a "harpy"?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 462 of 526 (905064)
01-16-2023 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 459 by Phat
01-15-2023 1:20 PM


Re: Conversations behind Gods back: Rant#1
Phat writes:
Inquiring idiots want to know!
THAT was a post that you should have ignored, like so many others. You do NOT want to try to argue that you are not stupid and/or foolish. All we have to do is quote your stupid and foolish posts back at you.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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DrJones*
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Message 463 of 526 (905094)
01-16-2023 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 459 by Phat
01-15-2023 1:20 PM


Re: Conversations behind Gods back: Rant#1
Tell us a bit about yourself. Are you retired? Working? What was(is) your line of work?
I don't see how that's any of your business

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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AZPaul3
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Message 464 of 526 (905095)
01-17-2023 2:37 AM
Reply to: Message 463 by DrJones*
01-16-2023 8:49 PM


Re: Conversations behind Gods back: Rant#1
I don't see how that's any of your business
This is OUR forum. You should be forced to answer his questions. All of them.
And the reason why is cuz I can't wait to see what you come up with.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 465 of 526 (905131)
01-18-2023 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 464 by AZPaul3
01-17-2023 2:37 AM


Personal Privacy vs Public Shaming
AZ addressing Dr.Jones writes:
This is OUR forum. You should be forced to answer his questions. All of them.
No AZ. He is right. I have no right to know who he is or what he does. But he called me an idiot, for crying out loud! This is a non-partisan issue. Biden has as many skeletons and documents in his closet as Trump did. Why must the media protect one and not the other? And why are conservatives more likely to be idiots while liberals are portrayed as victims?
And Theodoric always screams "mind your own business!" when it is usually him who digs up dirt on every conservative and apologist in the county! And don't tell me that there is not enough dirt for both classes of politicians!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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