A question that was first presented by Socrates.

That is a ridiculus statement.

No, it is a guide to Gods word.And now, I will prophecies to you.
God has gave me some words for you. He has made it apparent that you have been hurt by religion. The devil has convinced you that logical thinking is the way to goodneses.
You feel a need to be good.
You feel a need to prevent others from having the same troubles you did, and you are using logic to explain/convince it.
Life is not 0's and 1's rhain. There things that cannot be answered by that, no matter how many 0's and 1's you put to it.I just want you to know that I extend my blessings to you rhain. That I do pray for you. I do not just do it because of God either, that I do it for you personally, becasue I think you are worth it.

No he was the Son of God.

See my prophecie.

Things are good.
Thoughts are evil.
A thing cannot be evil.You cannot defy the will of God, that is correct, you just proved it.

Because he knew his son was coming to change the way the world is, and he did.

Why didn't he do that the first time rather than killing all those people?

Well then you kind of answered your own question there didn't you?Yes God created everything, and evil wouldn't exist if God did not create everything. Does this make God responsible for evil?If we compare it to the car company, good works perfectly, it is only when we use it wrong(evil in other words) does it cause a problem. This is not the fault of the creator. Good could not exist without evil, nor evil without good.God does not make things that are evil directly either, he makes things that can choose to be evil. But he has made it known to us that it is a bad thing to choose evil, so we have no exuses. He also tells us that there is nothing we can do about it.Matthew 1328" 'An enemy did this,' he replied.
"The servants asked him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?'
29" 'No,' he answered, 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' "

Then niether are you.

I don't think I can give a qualified answer to that. I guess I wonder the same thing.
But maybe we were headed down such a path of destruction, that it was too late to send his son?
How many chances must God give us?
But its not like he didn't warn them. They chose their destiny by their actions.

Yes, of course BUT the "prime directive" of Christianity is in essence that God not interfere with humanity learning its own harsh lessons about obedience and rebellion, reaping and sowing, what comes around goes aroundedness.
1)Why can't God just save everyone and eliminate evil? Because for a reason only known and understood fully by Him, everything must occur so that humanity individually and collectively understands the consequences of independance from God and freely and willfully chooses their own destiny with or without Him.
2) Does goodness exist without God? In my belief, NO. Humanity is a continually evolving imperfection that will NEVER become any better than we already are. We may be able to build computers and map genomes, but our internal base motives and passions are virtually identical to our ancestors.
3) But there is no God. God is a human construct. It is time that civilization took responsibility for itself. And this type of thinking is precisely what the Bible says ushers in the last days of an AntiChrist who exalts self above religion and preaches a secular self deification type of message. Human wisdom triumphs! For awhile...then the Truth is known!

Look at it like this:
Guns kill people. Sin causes Evil. Guns in and of themselves are not the cause of killing. People who misuse Guns are the root cause.
Sin (Evil) in and of itself as a created reality is not the cause of misery and death in the world. People who choose evil (by unchoosing God) are the cause of death and misery. Is Remington Arms company responsible (legally) for every death inflicted by one of their guns?
No. Is God responsible for the human misuse of evil? No.

Thats what I have been saying.So does evil come from God?

In one sense, yes. Everything comes from God. Lets think about it a moment, however. Does what you or I choose to do in the next moment or day or week come from Gods decision? If yes, that is a pantheistic view. If no, that is a monotheistic view.
Monotheistically, God does not control human decisions, nor is He responsible for them. That is why we have the option of "choosing" Christ.
To say that evil (or good) "comes from" a source implies that the source is either part of our decisions and minds,(pantheism) or is not a part of our decisions and minds (monotheism.) If I do good, am I God? If I do evil, am I the devil? I am in communion (common union) with one spirit or the other, but I am not in communion by possession or synergistic union. I am in communion by choice.
To a monotheist, we can commune with God, but our thoughts are never His thoughts and our ways are never His ways. Even Jesus said that there is none good but God. Jesus was not just in communion with God, Jesus WAS God. He said to the rich young ruler, "why do you call me good? There is none good but God." In that statement, He neither denied being God nor being good, but He was basically asking the man this question: Do you know who I am?This message has been edited by Phatboy, 10-27-2004 10:35 AM

Honestly: I'm not r eferring to a specific event, and I'm not trying to trap you.If you don't want to answer or are undecided, that is fine, but I think the question is fairly straighforward: Is genocide or infanticide ever morally justifiable?If you r answer would change based on the course of our discussion, I'm not sure it's worth continuing the discussion.