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Dwise 1, read over your reply to me. You offer proof of
nothing.You sound a lot like Jeff Goldbloom in Jurrasic Park:
"Life will find a way."It might sound informative, but it means nothing.My point with the single cell organism is that it is far
too complex to have spontaneously sprang into
existence.And it had to appear just as it is. Irreducible complexity.These scientists pushing this load of crap cannot
duplicate this feat, even with their intelligence.Yet, they want us to accept their word that blind and
unguided evolution did this.

Yet again I must ask you that terrifying question that you continue to avoid: Evolution may be blind to any future goals but not to current conditions and it may not be guided by any planning for future goals, but it is still guided by natural selection in response to current conditions.You are still falling for that stupid creationist lie which misrepresents evolution as "blind chance" divorced from natural selection, or natural selection divorced from any mechanisms for increasing genetic diversity.Rather, evolution uses the synergy from increasing genetic diversity being filtered by natural selection, the products of which are the starting point of the next cycle of increasing genetic diversity being filtered by natural selection.The lie you are repeating would be like saying that automobiles are impossible because you can have a car without an engine and it doesn't go anywhere, and an engine without a car which also doesn't go anywhere. A single celled organism just suddenly poofing into existence? Or suddenly coalescing from a mixture of chemicals? That would be absolutely ridiculous!Which is why the only people who ever say that are stupid lying creationists! Nobody who has ever studied evolution or abiogenesis (they are two separate subjects) or any science related to biology would ever think that that is how it would work.Just stupid lying creationists who have no clue what they are talking about. For that matter, what you creationists are describing there is your own position: creation ex nihilo.Second, there have been many experiments using evolutionary processes to design things, like designing a differential amplifier made out of a Field Programmable Gate Array (FPGA). Not only was the resultant amplifier fully functional and extremely complex (it used the analog characteristics of digital circuitry, something that no human engineer could do), but it was also irreducibly complex in that any change a human engineer tried to make to the final design would break it.I am a retired intelligent designer, so I have some practical experience (about 35 years). Products of intelligent design are simple, parsimonious, modular, and tolerant of modifications. Products of evolutionary processes are complex, overly complex, intolerant of modification (you change one thing and it breaks the design in half a dozen other places).In trying to determine whether something was produced intelligently or through evolution, high levels of complexity (especially unnecessary complexity like the cranial nerve that shouldn't have to ever leave the crania but is trapped into being routed around the aorta because that is where it started out from in the first place -- one helluva unnecessary detour in the case of the giraffe) are a sure sign of evolution. So, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?More specifically, WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF EVOLUTION AND HOW DO YOU THINK IT WORKS?That is an extremely important question for you to answer so that we can have a discussion. Because all indications are that your ideas about evolution are so bizarre and completely wrong, which is why nothing you have said about evolution makes any sense at all.We're talking about evolution. Who the hell knows what you're talking about. All we do know is that it sure as hell isn't evolution nor have anything to do with evolution or any other sciences. Also, why are you avoiding the thread for discussing radiocarbon dating? You know, the topic that I started in order to prevent such off-topic messages like this. That I had started because you yourself personally complained that discussing evolution was off-topic here.Hypocrite!

Phat, Satan gains many more subjects by concealing his
existence.If people were absolutely convinced that Satan exists, they
would then be convinced that God exists.Satan could prove his existence without much difficulty,
but then we would have no evolutionists; no agnostics;
and, no atheists to turn people away from God.A hunter conceals himself from the hunted.The Hollywood elite, top musicians, politicians (from all
parties and countries), captains of industries, etc... are all
required to pay homage to Satan if they want fame,
wealth, and power during this present age.Hundreds of celebrities have admitted to selling
themselves to Satan. But people don't believe them."Eyes wide shut."These people are some of the most depraved people
on earth. They are required to corrupt the minds of
the rest of us, especially the young.Satan's highest ranking demons actually possess
many of them.Humans have an awesome opportunity that Satan
never had. We can actually become members of the
God family.Satan hates us for this, with a hate than cannot be
equaled.Don't ever think that Satan doesn't have a throne or
subjects. He is the ultimate deceiver. It does not matter
to him whether the average person believes that he
exists or not, as long as they do not place their trust in
God.He knows what his end will be. He wants to bring as
many down with him as possible.

The cell is indeed very complex. I am currently reading the textbook Becker's World of the Cell and almost every page has me shaking my head in almost disbelief.
But that does not mean "therefore recent creation".For any postulated creator idea you have to take the full package. The Earth is old, the evidence for which is so far irrefutable. So any creator has produced life over a long time in a way that looks like evolution. Along the way there have been five major and many minor extinctions often associated with massive and prolonged outpourings of lava. At least one extinction is associated with one of the many asteroid strikes on the Earth.The recovery of life after these looks like a struggle to reproduce biodiversity rather than fresh creations.Most animal life forms live in fear of being eaten by other animals which often starts before they are even dead, or they are swallowed whole to die in the predator's digestive juices.If humans are the pinnacle of creation they have still been around for tens to hundreds of thousands of years, taking a long while to reach the stage of actually starting to understand life, the Universe, and everything.Along the way relatively recently we have the Black Death, Spanish flu, two world wars, Covid, and Trump.So what game is the creator playing? Why so much misery for so many for so long? If Satan is causing the trouble why has he been allowed to do it for so long?

So satan should be god’s bait-and-switch product? Believe in one; believe in the other?I always thought satan was the loss-leader product. The one you dangle in front to draw everyone in. He was the fun one with all those sins to commit. No. They have to pay homage to the media which makes and breaks all wealth and fame. You must already know your satan is nothing to the media. We use him as a play toy especially with creepy demon halloween coming up. What did you name yours? Well, then sign me up! More than belief, there is not the one, so there is not the other. And he was the fun one in the whole play.

"no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.   This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six."Revelation 13:17-18

Paradoxically, 99.9999% of Satan's servants don't believe he exists.
Satan can use each of these blind ignoramuses as a "play toy" to do his bidding.

YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!

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You are attributing to ME that which AZPaul3 had written!!DAMN YOU FUCKING EVIL CREATIONIST LIAR!!You have done this before. Why is it so impossible for creationists to stop lying?Verily, you creationists are the ones serving your Satan!

I keep telling people, it's those damn meat-crackers. They fucked up his brain.

That is an interesting statistic Dredge. I wonder how many millions of people were surveyed for it and what criteria were used.However I am seriously seeking information.How exactly does Satan tempt and control someone. Does he have some omniscience so he knows who to target? How many can he control at once - is he omnipresent?How does he exert his control? Can he manipulate brain cell activity to produce his desired results?If he farms out some activities to the reputed large number of his fellow demons I wonder what things were like in the period after the Flood when there were thousands of demons for every human. No wonder they decided to build that tower!As I said this is a serious request. No one has been able to explain it to me so far.

Sorry for the error. Maybe it was caused by some weird gremlin in the system ... but then again I am retarded and also mentally ill, so anything could happen.To compensate for the mistake, I will invite you to my birthday party (but you will still need to bring a gift ... valued at at least $100).

I mistakenly attributed your comment to dwise1 and it was all your fault. I think you owe someone an apology.

You're the one who ate the crackers. You owe the whole world an apology.

Hello Pollux.Perhaps the following links will provide answers your questions ...
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Demonic Possession
Demons Don't Sleep: Interview with a Demonologist | Catholic AnswersP.S. Do you want to be my friend?

I have apologized to the whole world many times on account of my errors.